A little reminder for the mewling morons

ZOMG OBAMA ATE ICE CREAM?

Honest to god, these past few days everybody has been giving Obama shit for his handling of the non-issue that is Iran—and actually his inaction has probably been the best move he could have made. It’s not like these type of demonstrations have a high chance of success anyway…...

Bush’s inaction during Katrina became significant because it was representative of something far bigger- the incompetence and callousness which were key features of his regime. It was what people saw during Katrina that finally caused a large majority of the population to face the disaster that was the Bush presidency.

So, on one level, you are right, Dan. What was he supposed to do, grab a bucket and start baling? But on a much larger level, you are very wrong. Katrina was the end of any credible claim Bush could make to the American people that he was an adequate President, and from that time on, his goose was very rightly cooked.

In a way, this is similar to what happened to Nixon during Watergate. At the time there were two views of Nixon- the valueless crook, and the great hero defending us against Communism around the world. The Watergate burglary and its coverup were not such big deals in themselves, but they made it impossible for most Americans to accept the good story about Nixon, and made his downfall inevitable.

Yes, I am aware that Wordsmith tried to walk back his whinging with a weak disclaimer (“I actually don’t begrudge President Obama his vanilla custard”). That was what is called ‘plausible deniability’, except that it wasn’t plausible in the least.

thinking meat is trying to back-pedal his little hissy fit and prove to his esteemed readership that he isn’t reading comprehension challenged. Too bad his moonbat derangement got the better of him.

meathead’s just not got enough gray matter to comprehend; or maybe he just can’t see beyond his BDS and kool-aid-laced hatred for wingnuts; so any of his readers are more than welcomed to go read the post himself.

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Remember the criticism leveled at President Bush while New Orleans “burned”? Petty partisan politics is a bitch, ain’t it?

I linked to HotAir’s piece and labeled it for what it was: Petty partisanship, no different than what meatbrains like “thinking”meat oinked about for 8 years.

Sucks to be meatbrain, lacking the self-knowledge and wherewithal to recognize his own partisan derangement that filters reality through a sieve of delusion. Guess it’s the only way his partisan shit-for-brains can understand the world.

Haha….thanks for admitting to not reading beyond the headlines.

I love my headline blurbs. Check out some previous posts of mine that have similar “attention-grabbing” titles….then bother to read the actual post.

I accept your apology in advance. No need to thank me for setting you straight; the pleasure was all mine.

“an honest discussion”? Where’s my first comment this morning in which I led in with “Great post!” ? Oh, yeah…and then there was the obligatory ad hominem beatdown, just to be consistent with the tone and tenor of your blog.

And then my second and third comments, which were put on moderation?

Yup, real “honest discussion” in these neck of the woods…..

There is a duplicity in attacking Bush for recreation, and not equally attacking Obama. Such criticism should be held to the same standards, but Bush got lots more than normal, and any criticism of Obama seems at least absent, and surely taboo.

“President Barack Obama has gone to the golf course at least 11 times since he took the oath of office a little more than six months ago — three rounds were played during the late January, 12-day holiday Obama took with his family in Hawaii; one at Andrews Air Force Base; and seven at Ft. Belvoir Golf Course, including a round on Sunday, Father’s Day, with Vice President Joe Biden.”

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““I don’t want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf,” Bush said in an interview with Politico and Yahoo News on May 13, 2008. “I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal.”

Bush said he made the decision after the August 2003 bombing of the United Nations headquarters in Baghdad, which killed Sergio Vieira de Mello, the top U.N. official in Iraq and the organization’s high commissioner of human rights. He was golfing when he got the news.

“I was playing golf — I think I was in central Texas — and they pulled me off the golf course and I said, ‘It’s just not worth it anymore to do.’””
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“The following U.S. troops died in Iraq and Afghanistan while Obama was on golf outings, according to records of U.S. troop casualties kept by the Department of Defense:
—Spc. David A. Schaefer Jr., 27, of Belleville, Ill., died May 16 in Baghdad, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated near his unit. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Infantry Regiment, 172nd Infantry Brigade, Schweinfurt, Germany.
—Cmdr. Duane G. Wolfe, 54, of Port Hueneme, Calif., died May 25 from injuries suffered as a result of an improvised explosive device attack on his convoy southeast of Fallujah. Wolfe was assigned to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ Gulf Region Division in Iraq.
—Spc. Eduardo S. Silva, 25, of Greenfield, Calif., died June 9 at Bagram Airfield, Afghanistan, of a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to the 563rd Aviation Support Battalion, 159th Combat Aviation Brigade, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Ky. The circumstances surrounding the incident are under investigation.”

“Who could be upset with that?”
So true, but I wonder why there wasn’t similar criticism of Barack’s Jazz Night during the big ice storm that left hundreds of thousands of people in the south without power in late winter?

“And Scott surely is a past master at pulling ‘facts’ out of his ass. ”
Do you dispute these as facts? If not then there’s no need for the apostrophes.

“US troops die every day, all around the world. Should the President refrain from ever engaging in _any form of recreation because of this fact?”
Nope. I never said that. I just said that Presidents should be held to the same standard.

“How often are entire US cities inundated under several feet of water?”
Every few years. New Orleans in particular has a long history of being flooded. I remember the Mississippi floods in the 90’s. In fact, I was there in Iowa and St Louis helping out. It happens. The sad thing about NO was that more people weren’t evacuated, and the local and state govt’s hated each other. Only when GWB sent in a general did the situation get any better. His FEMA guy was a twit though.

“The simple fact is that Bush displayed a remarkable level of callousness and lack of awareness regarding his cavalier attitude towards the various catastrophes over which he presided.”
I would say ignorance-not callousness.

“Oh, and by the way… which President started the wars of choice in which the servicemen that Scott lists met their ends? What responsibility does that President bear for their deaths?”
Well, Afghanistan wasn’t exactly a war of choice (no more than any war is). Iraq-like the war on the Korean Peninsula-never ended with a peace treaty; just a cease-fire, and so Pres. Bush Sr SHOULD have ended it. Pres Clinton SHOULD have ended, and Pres W Bush SHOULD have ended it, but…that’s all history, as President Obama is the Commander of US forces, and when his troops die in battle (particularly while he’s golfing) , it’s his fault. Blaming Bush for Obama’s military failures (such as losing troops) is a cop out.

“Yes. When some random yahoo says that “criticism of Obama seems at least absent, and surely taboo”, then it is clear that said imbecile is either off his meds or posting from an alternate universe. Which is it, mumbles?”
Gotta be mental to post here

“The whole city? Let’s see some evidence.”
I dunno about “the whole city” and neither of us claimed that. I do know that every few years…American cities get flooded, and every year there’s some sort of huge natural disaster, and I know that a city built below sea level on a river delta is at huge flood risk to begin with-only a fool would deny that.

“Note that mumbles doesn’t answer the question. No surpirse there.”
Note that muttonbrain can’t spell and doesn’t read the full answer before commenting.

“Really? You’re claiming that every single military death is directly attributable to the Commander in Chief? There are no other factors involved when a soldier dies?”
I’m claiming that a commander is supposed to be responsible for his troops, and that Bush was held to that standard while people can’t man-up and apply the same standard to Obama.

Chodabrains, the sky is blue here, unless it’s cloudy or raining in which case it’s Bush’s fault, right?

“False. I asked:”
Asking and claiming are two entirely different things

Nah, no lie-You’re simply wrong and can’t admit it. Every few years an American city is inundated with water. You ASSUMED 100% of a city, but that only made an ASS out of you, and not me. Inundated does not mean or require a whole city-most of it to be sure, but not 100%.

This whole thing is a nice distraction for Terry’s sake, but the fact remains: Obama’s partyin’ it up while the nation is in the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression, and all he and Democrats are doing is making things worse.

Even you recognize that those weren’t my words, or you’d have included the word “whole city” in my quote.
Man up, admit your mistake, or continue to look lower than petty-I did not say “whole city,” and you’re lying when you claim I did.

Every few years American cities are inundated with water. That’s a simple point we should be able to agree on, no? If so, then my larger point that if Bush was negligent for partying or ignoring or vacationing while a city was in crisis, Obama’s as much or more guilty of being negligent for partying, golfing, etc while an entire NATION is in crisis. Meanwhile, rather than addressing this larger point which is the point of the thread, you’re focused on a rhetorical difference between inundating an “entire” city and inundating a whole/100% of a city. I admit that a whole/100% of an American city hasn’t been inundated with water in a long time (this includes New Orleans w Katrina), but and I should have not used the word “entire” as it unintentionally misled you by sounding like 100% instead of 70, 80, 90, or 99% of a city. My apologies as I thought you were more intelligent and focused on the discussion rather than the semantic difference between 70, 80,90%+ and 100%. Meatbrain doesn’t necessarily mean functionalbrain.

Crapbrain has come a long way from his original position as an Obama apologist regarding the thread’s topic: that he golfs, party’s (see also Luau last week) when even Bush wouldn’t have done so.

Instead he arbitrarily calls me a liar without demonstrating deliberate intent to mislead while he himself misleads as far from his excuse-making for Obama as he can.