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	<description>It's meat! And it thinks!</description>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24312</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&#42;&#42; chuckle &#42;&#42;&lt;/strong&gt;

Faced with the truth about itself, PW devolves to a childish whine... &quot;waaaahhh -- I know you are but what am I?&quot;</description>
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<p>Faced with the truth about itself, PW devolves to a childish whine&#8230; &#8220;waaaahhh&#8212;I know you are but what am I?&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Protest Warrior</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24311</link>
		<dc:creator>Protest Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you are you putz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you are you putz</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24298</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bq. Is it even REMOTELY possible Raven may have done the same without being aware?

Nope. &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrightlyso.com/2008/08/23/the-newly-anointed-one-sir-joe-biden/#comment-73720&quot;&gt;Raven confirms in the comments to her post that she actually meant what she said&lt;/a&gt;:

bq. But I have heard him on the news shows and he’s one of those liberals who believe peons cannot and should not think for themselves. 

Raven didn&#039;t misread Biden. Like PW, she is inventing a viewpoint and pretending that someone else holds that viewpoint, so that she can excoriate that person. Like PW, she is intellectually dishonest, and incapable of participating in an honest debate.</description>
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<p>Is it even REMOTELY possible Raven may have done the same without being aware?</p>
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<p>Nope. <a href="http://andrightlyso.com/2008/08/23/the-newly-anointed-one-sir-joe-biden/#comment-73720">Raven confirms in the comments to her post that she actually meant what she said</a>:</p>
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<p>But I have heard him on the news shows and he’s one of those liberals who believe peons cannot and should not think for themselves. </p>
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<p>Raven didn&#8217;t misread Biden. Like PW, she is inventing a viewpoint and pretending that someone else holds that viewpoint, so that she can excoriate that person. Like PW, she is intellectually dishonest, and incapable of participating in an honest debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Protest Warrior</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24279</link>
		<dc:creator>Protest Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whine snivel moan

You misread Amy Proctors words

Is it even REMOTELY possible Raven may have done the same without being aware?

Or is that just NOT a possibility in your narrow minded view of the world where you are perfect and others are just plain ignorant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whine snivel moan</p>
<p>You misread Amy Proctors words</p>
<p>Is it even REMOTELY possible Raven may have done the same without being aware?</p>
<p>Or is that just NOT a possibility in your narrow minded view of the world where you are perfect and others are just plain ignorant?</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24272</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing elitist about pointing out that PW makes shit up and claims that his fantasies are actually someone else&#039;s views. The true joke is PW, who whines about &quot;fair play&quot; after being caught doing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing elitist about pointing out that PW makes shit up and claims that his fantasies are actually someone else&#8217;s views. The true joke is PW, who whines about &#8220;fair play&#8221; after being caught doing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Protest Warrior</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24235</link>
		<dc:creator>Protest Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever Meathead

Your an elitist pious snob son of a bitch with no sense of fair play or any view but your own

Your still a joke

A belly laughing hysterical joke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever Meathead</p>
<p>Your an elitist pious snob son of a bitch with no sense of fair play or any view but your own</p>
<p>Your still a joke</p>
<p>A belly laughing hysterical joke</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24207</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bq. So, what you are saying, in essence, is that you are better than everyone else...

PW once more accuses me of holding a view I have not expressed. Clearly his reading comprehension is poor. I urge him again to seek help.

bq. ...and ONLY you are entitled to misreading statements...

PW once more accuses me of holding a view I have not expressed. Clearly his reading comprehension is poor. I urge him again to seek help.

bq. ...but when others do the same…you have every right and permission in the world to come down on them...

PW once more accuses me of holding a view I have not expressed. Clearly his reading comprehension is poor. I urge him again to seek help.

PW should consult the following sites, which will help him find adult literacy resources in his area. I am certain that with determination and the proper training, he can bring his reading abilities up to normal levels.

* &lt;a href=&quot;http://litlink.ket.org/&quot;&gt;LiteracyLink&lt;/a&gt;
* &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nifl.gov/lincs/directories/links_directories.html&quot;&gt;National Institute for Literacy&lt;/a&gt;
* &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncccs.cc.nc.us/Basic_Skills/generalAdultLiteracyResources.htm&quot;&gt;General Adult Literacy Resources&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p>So, what you are saying, in essence, is that you are better than everyone else&#8230;</p>
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<p>PW once more accuses me of holding a view I have not expressed. Clearly his reading comprehension is poor. I urge him again to seek help.</p>
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<p>...and ONLY you are entitled to misreading statements&#8230;</p>
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<p>PW once more accuses me of holding a view I have not expressed. Clearly his reading comprehension is poor. I urge him again to seek help.</p>
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<p>...but when others do the same…you have every right and permission in the world to come down on them&#8230;</p>
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<p>PW once more accuses me of holding a view I have not expressed. Clearly his reading comprehension is poor. I urge him again to seek help.</p>
<p>PW should consult the following sites, which will help him find adult literacy resources in his area. I am certain that with determination and the proper training, he can bring his reading abilities up to normal levels.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://litlink.ket.org/">LiteracyLink</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.nifl.gov/lincs/directories/links_directories.html">National Institute for Literacy</a></li>
</ul>
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<li><a href="http://www.ncccs.cc.nc.us/Basic_Skills/generalAdultLiteracyResources.htm">General Adult Literacy Resources</a></li>
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		<title>By: Protest Warrior</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24193</link>
		<dc:creator>Protest Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what you are saying, in essence, is that you are better than everyone else, and ONLY you are entitled to misreading statements, but when others do the same...you have every right and permission in the world to come down on them because you are a pious son of a bitch

Got it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what you are saying, in essence, is that you are better than everyone else, and ONLY you are entitled to misreading statements, but when others do the same&#8230;you have every right and permission in the world to come down on them because you are a pious son of a bitch</p>
<p>Got it</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24191</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bq. No problems with my reading comprehension...

False. PW accused me of holding a view I had not expressed. Clearly his reading comprehension is poor. I urge him again to seek help.

And when someone repeatedly makes false statements, &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/08/jim-hoft-still-a-goddamn-fucking-liar/&quot;&gt;as Jim Hoft does&lt;/a&gt;, then I will repeatedly point out that that person is a goddamn fucking liar.</description>
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<p>No problems with my reading comprehension&#8230;</p>
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<p>False. PW accused me of holding a view I had not expressed. Clearly his reading comprehension is poor. I urge him again to seek help.</p>
<p>And when someone repeatedly makes false statements, <a href="http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/08/jim-hoft-still-a-goddamn-fucking-liar/">as Jim Hoft does</a>, then I will repeatedly point out that that person is a goddamn fucking liar.</p>
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		<title>By: Protest Warrior</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24190</link>
		<dc:creator>Protest Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problems with my reading comprehension, yours, however; are suspect when you misread Amy Proctors statement and admit to it, then get on someone else for doing the same thing.

Your a &quot;god damn fucking liar&quot;

To quote your own postings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problems with my reading comprehension, yours, however; are suspect when you misread Amy Proctors statement and admit to it, then get on someone else for doing the same thing.</p>
<p>Your a &#8220;god damn fucking liar&#8221;</p>
<p>To quote your own postings</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24187</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bq. So its ok for you to misread someones statement, but not anyone else?

I&#039;ve made no such statement. PW should talk to a local adult education facility. I am certain they can help him improve his obviously poor reading comprehension.</description>
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<p>So its ok for you to misread someones statement, but not anyone else?</p>
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<p>I&#8217;ve made no such statement. PW should talk to a local adult education facility. I am certain they can help him improve his obviously poor reading comprehension.</p>
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		<title>By: Protest Warrior</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24186</link>
		<dc:creator>Protest Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So its ok for you to misread someones statement, but not anyone else?

You hypocritical piece of shit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So its ok for you to misread someones statement, but not anyone else?</p>
<p>You hypocritical piece of shit</p>
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		<title>By: billy Joe</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24164</link>
		<dc:creator>billy Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think her statement demonstrates her low level of reading comprehension more than anything else.  What a surprise... a dumb wingnut!

Maybe she hasn&#039;t yet mastered the English language?

Funny post, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think her statement demonstrates her low level of reading comprehension more than anything else.  What a surprise&#8230; a dumb wingnut!</p>
<p>Maybe she hasn&#8217;t yet mastered the English language?</p>
<p>Funny post, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: socketplug</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24148</link>
		<dc:creator>socketplug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting, the more natural thing to say if Raven&#039;s interpretation is correct would be, &quot;We must have public officials who will stand up and tell the people exactly what &lt;b&gt;to&lt;/b&gt; think.&quot;  But that is not what was said.  Raven is definitely stretching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting, the more natural thing to say if Raven&#8217;s interpretation is correct would be, &#8220;We must have public officials who will stand up and tell the people exactly what <b>to</b> think.&#8221;  But that is not what was said.  Raven is definitely stretching.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/08/25/ravens-unsurprising-dishonesty/comment-page-1#comment-24131</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not so sure that Raven intentionally lied.  She is so full of hatred that in her mind she actually read that she was being told what to think.  Raven needs to calm down and read what people actually said instead of what she wishes they had said.  Continuing with the latter only makes her look silly.  It&#039;s not just Raven either.  It&#039;s happening with an increasing frequency on conservative blogs.

Personally I think it reeks of desperation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not so sure that Raven intentionally lied.  She is so full of hatred that in her mind she actually read that she was being told what to think.  Raven needs to calm down and read what people actually said instead of what she wishes they had said.  Continuing with the latter only makes her look silly.  It&#8217;s not just Raven either.  It&#8217;s happening with an increasing frequency on conservative blogs.</p>
<p>Personally I think it reeks of desperation.</p>
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