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	<description>It's meat! And it thinks!</description>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/07/16/the-dawn-of-a-new-age/#comment-22776</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other word, Burhans can provide no evidence that Ahmadinejad actually said that Israel should be "wiped from the map", and flees the discussion. Perfectly typical for a cowardly liar of his sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other word, Burhans can provide no evidence that Ahmadinejad actually said that Israel should be &#8220;wiped from the map&#8221;, and flees the discussion. Perfectly typical for a cowardly liar of his sort.</p>
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		<title>By: Orion</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/07/16/the-dawn-of-a-new-age/#comment-22775</link>
		<dc:creator>Orion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*laughs* I was close...Ahhh...THERE'S the Meatbrain we all know and love.

Orion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>laughs</strong> I was close&#8230;Ahhh&#8230;THERE&#8217;S the Meatbrain we all know and love.</p>
<p>Orion</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/07/16/the-dawn-of-a-new-age/#comment-22767</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Israel Herald story refers to a different speech. Wrong speech, wrong phrase, Irrelevant.

The 'Today's Zaman' article provides no original text.

The link to iribnews.ir in the Natgional Review column does not resolve.

Perhaps Burhans can provide the original text of Ahmadinejad's speech. Then, competent speakers of Farsi can judge the accuracy of the translation for themselves.

Or perhaps he will simply continue to lie. As he prefers to take the easy way out in his "discussions", the latter is far more likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Israel Herald story refers to a different speech. Wrong speech, wrong phrase, Irrelevant.</p>
<p>The &#8216;Today&#8217;s Zaman&#8217; article provides no original text.</p>
<p>The link to iribnews.ir in the Natgional Review column does not resolve.</p>
<p>Perhaps Burhans can provide the original text of Ahmadinejad&#8217;s speech. Then, competent speakers of Farsi can judge the accuracy of the translation for themselves.</p>
<p>Or perhaps he will simply continue to lie. As he prefers to take the easy way out in his &#8220;discussions&#8221;, the latter is far more likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Orion</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/07/16/the-dawn-of-a-new-age/#comment-22765</link>
		<dc:creator>Orion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF="http://story.israelherald.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/f81a4d9d561822ee/id/252228/cs/1/www.radiobalochi.org"&gt;"cut the Zionist root from it's stem."&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a HREF="http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&#38;link=25787"&gt;"As the Imam says; Israel should be wiped off the map,"&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a HREF="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWEwNDliNzBjYjY3NzQ3ZWM5YWY4ZTc2ZDg4NTg4N2E="&gt;"Perhaps one can quibble over how to render a translation. Here, the Islamic Republic provides its own clarification. In its official translations, it headlined  Ahmadinejad's call to "wipe Israel off the map.""&lt;/a&gt;

Seems close enough to me...but why quibble...No doubt you'll just accuse me of hiding behind a dictionary again, or perhaps, you will complain that I am forcing you to click on links rather than providing the original Persian text with annotated translations myself...

And of course, you still haven't addressed why you think Jarrell's comments are somehow more odious than the rhetoric of the Iranians, Palestinians, Indonesians, et. al....


Orion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://story.israelherald.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/f81a4d9d561822ee/id/252228/cs/1/www.radiobalochi.org">&#8220;cut the Zionist root from it&#8217;s stem.&#8221;</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&#038;link=25787">&#8220;As the Imam says; Israel should be wiped off the map,&#8221;</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWEwNDliNzBjYjY3NzQ3ZWM5YWY4ZTc2ZDg4NTg4N2E=">&#8220;Perhaps one can quibble over how to render a translation. Here, the Islamic Republic provides its own clarification. In its official translations, it headlined  Ahmadinejad&#8217;s call to &#8220;wipe Israel off the map.&#8221;&#8220;</a></p>
<p>Seems close enough to me&#8230;but why quibble&#8230;No doubt you&#8217;ll just accuse me of hiding behind a dictionary again, or perhaps, you will complain that I am forcing you to click on links rather than providing the original Persian text with annotated translations myself&#8230;</p>
<p>And of course, you still haven&#8217;t addressed why you think Jarrell&#8217;s comments are somehow more odious than the rhetoric of the Iranians, Palestinians, Indonesians, et. al&#8230;.</p>
<p>Orion</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/07/16/the-dawn-of-a-new-age/#comment-22757</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bq. I do find it interesting that he finds it more relevant to point to Kit Jarrell’s post rather than Ahmadinejad’s statements about wiping the Jews off the face of the Earth.

I can't quote &lt;a href="http://www.juancole.com/2006/05/hitchens-hacker-and-hitchens.html"&gt;a statement that Ahmadinejad never made&lt;/a&gt;.

Jeff "Orion" Burhans, like most wingnuts, is incapable of making an argument that does not depend upon a lie. One can only wonder if he will lie to his fellow soldiers when he is deployed to Iraq.</description>
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<p>I do find it interesting that he finds it more relevant to point to Kit Jarrell’s post rather than Ahmadinejad’s statements about wiping the Jews off the face of the Earth.</p>
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<p>I can&#8217;t quote <a href="http://www.juancole.com/2006/05/hitchens-hacker-and-hitchens.html">a statement that Ahmadinejad never made</a>.</p>
<p>Jeff &#8220;Orion&#8221; Burhans, like most wingnuts, is incapable of making an argument that does not depend upon a lie. One can only wonder if he will lie to his fellow soldiers when he is deployed to Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Orion</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/07/16/the-dawn-of-a-new-age/#comment-22747</link>
		<dc:creator>Orion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, you gotta give him some points for trying. This is one of his best posts.

I do find it interesting that he finds it more relevant to point to Kit Jarrell's post rather than Ahmadinejad's statements about wiping the Jews off the face of the Earth. Or those made by innumerable other leading Arabs, Persians, et. al...

But you need to focus on which ones are actually TRYING to wipe out an entire people, I suppose, not those who are just using rhetoric.

Orion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you gotta give him some points for trying. This is one of his best posts.</p>
<p>I do find it interesting that he finds it more relevant to point to Kit Jarrell&#8217;s post rather than Ahmadinejad&#8217;s statements about wiping the Jews off the face of the Earth. Or those made by innumerable other leading Arabs, Persians, et. al&#8230;</p>
<p>But you need to focus on which ones are actually TRYING to wipe out an entire people, I suppose, not those who are just using rhetoric.</p>
<p>Orion</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/07/16/the-dawn-of-a-new-age/#comment-22739</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I wonder, actually, is why PW insists on repeatedly advertising the fact that he has nothing whatever to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I wonder, actually, is why PW insists on repeatedly advertising the fact that he has nothing whatever to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Protest Warrior</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/07/16/the-dawn-of-a-new-age/#comment-22737</link>
		<dc:creator>Protest Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want a civilized nation?

Won't get it when you have headlines such as "Gribbit’s back! And he’s lying his ass off!" And calling people names

Yep, your a true leader in the civility department, and you show us every day just how civilized you are 

Wonder why your a joke?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want a civilized nation?</p>
<p>Won&#8217;t get it when you have headlines such as &#8220;Gribbit’s back! And he’s lying his ass off!&#8221; And calling people names</p>
<p>Yep, your a true leader in the civility department, and you show us every day just how civilized you are </p>
<p>Wonder why your a joke?</p>
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