He is incapable of even citing a specific statement I have made, much less providing evidence that it was, in fact, a lie.

He certainly is done. He was done before he started. He’s a proven liar now.

See your distortions, etc. referenced in my above post.

You continue to prove my point and add some emphasis for good measure. Discussion with you is pointless – much like masturbation, but not nearly as much fun. As Robert Heinlein said, “Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.”

I think we’re finished here, don’t you?

Orion

On what “blatant lie” would Orion base such dismissal?

And, as expected, you leapt for the tasty morsel dangled in front of you and proved my point very amply. To wit:

You are one of those folks on the left that I believe discussion with is pointless. And I don’t say that lightly. No matter the testimony, evidence, or presentation, if it runs counter to your preferences and beliefs, it looks like you won’t even entertain it.

You find ONE word (and one that was obviously a silly bit of hyperbole) and from that you discount everything associated with it, because it doesn’t fit your preconceived notions. The only data you accept, the only arguments you listen to are those that you already agree with.

Orion

Then we can dismiss YOU on the basis of yours, right?

Orion

All recent temperature records point to global cooling.

We can dismiss Orion on the basis of this one blatant lie. His claim simply is not true.

Come back when you have learned honesty, Orion.

Y’know you’ve a terrible case of projection.
But, I soo envy your fantasy life.

[b]”Emperor” Misha, is again demanding that someone be murdered for the heinous crime of offending his delicate sensibilities.[/b]

If he is DEMANDING, isn’t that the same as advocating? I always figured that advocating murder could be grounds for an arrest.

Interestingly enough, [i]you do the very same thing[/i]:

[b]Go out and start being a role model for all those brave, murdering culture warriors you want to set loose on society. Kill, and keep killing.[/b]

Sounds to me that [i]you[/i] are demanding that Misha go out and kill.

And just as there is no one at the Rott who would take Misha seriously, so we are not taking YOU seriously either.

1: Your post on Global Warming – You must certainly be aware that Global Warming has been so exploded as a cash-cow myth that they even changed the name to ‘Global Climate Change’. It’s main advocate is featured on ‘JunkScience.com’. Astrophysicists have pointed out primary solar causes for global temperature changes. All recent temperature records point to global cooling. Historical documents point to the likelihood of an end to the current interglacial period. The utter failure of all climate models to accurately predict the climate (I’m part of the SETI@Home-like attempt to FIND a working model. ANY model), yada yada yada. I VERY much want to believe in Global Warming. I’m an Engineer and it makes SENSE. Except all the evidence I can find points elsewhere. You skip past all this and decide that Global Warming is some sort of accepted fact. Hell, lad, it’s not even an accepted THEORY. Ever hear of the Heidelberg Appeal?

2: Your ‘But the surge is working!’ snark-post. You are clearly ignoring all the body of work of Michael Yon and pretty much every Soldier, Sailor, Marine, or Airman who has ever been to Iraq as well as the writings of most Iraqis, al Queda, most recently the BBC, and even Iran.

3: “Misson Accomplished? Suuurrre…” You completely discount the testimony of a USS Lincoln Sailor in favor of regurgitating some of Juan Cole’s blog-emesis, including a number of canards that have been disproved repeatedly (e.g. killed 200,000 Iraqis and destroyed the city of Fallujah – see Mike Yon’s posts about that city, with photos)

4: No matter how many AIR posters come here and tell you that you’re interpretation is badly mistaken, you refuse to change your opinion even to the extent of admitting that you badly mis-interpreted his original comment, which by now is even obvious to my cats. And they’ve been dead for 5 months.

5: “The Mommy America Syndrome” – not evidence, per se, but trend-data. You don’t find a man’s 20-year association with someone like Wright troubling? Even most DEMOCRATS find it troubling. They also find his constant dissimilitude on the subject troubling, along with his frequent positional changes. Again, if it’s leftist-tripe, it’s true to you!

6: “The Bush Legacy, No Plan” Um. That would be a great textbook entry in ‘cherry picking’. I think I’ll write the same thing about Obama and Clinton. You know, they also lack any sort of comprehensive plan to destroy the threat of rogue virii and close our borders to infected travelers! Again, trend-data.

The pattern I see here is someone who is so invested in leftist, anti-American doctrine that you spend your time not seeking data, but seeking data that matches your world-view. You seek fellow-travelers and like-minded people who write what you want to hear. When you DO look for contrary opinions, you find those that are totally over-the-top and hold them up as straw-men examples of the norm for that viewpoint. That’s fine and dandy, but don’t pretend it qualifies as ‘thinking’.

I could go on.

Orion

No matter the testimony, evidence, or presentation, if it runs counter to your preferences and beliefs, it looks like you won’t even entertain it.

Cite the instances in which you claim I have rejected some specific “evidence” out of hand.

The agency and judges mentioned in that post were clearly acting for their own interests, not the peoples.

Provide independently verifiable, documented evidence for this claim.

You know, if you are so convinced that Misha is advocating murder, have you informed the proper authorities?

I am not aware that Misha is violating any laws.

That being said, I don’t recall anyone being found dead because of anything said at Misha’s site.

I made no claim to that effect.

Most people can see Misha’s writing for what it is: venting.

Most people are making excuses for a moral cretin.

Oh, please. Read Misha’s posts over time. He is constantly agitating for other people to go out and commit murder.

Really? I have been a regular poster/participant at the Rott for several years. I don’t exactly say things that are popular on that site, and politically I am pretty much the opposite on 90 percent of the topics discussed there.

That being said, I don’t recall anyone being found dead because of anything said at Misha’s site.

Most people can see Misha’s writing for what it is: venting. Most people go to that site to kick it up and maybe have a good verbal yell. It is therapeutic at times—you should try it.

Like I said, I am the political antagonist of that site, and yet after all of the verbal punches, kicks, and low-blows, we could walk away and still be friends.

Maybe if you learned to participate there, you might understand it better. Sitting back here making a passive-agressive complaint about it is just a little silly.

You know, if you are so convinced that Misha is advocating murder, have you informed the proper authorities? If not, why not?

Another thing I’m wondering, how come you don’t have the cojones to come and say all of this to Misha’s face/blog? Why are you hiding behing a blog of anonymity?