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	<title>Comments on: 4000</title>
	<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/03/24/4000/</link>
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		<title>by: Qwerty</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/03/24/4000/#comment-19835</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>But you did compliment me! "I’ll modify my statement to adhere to your rigorous intellectual standards..." How sweet of you, billy Joe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you did compliment me! &#8220;I’ll modify my statement to adhere to your rigorous intellectual standards&#8230;&#8221; How sweet of you, billy Joe!</p>
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		<title>by: Qwerty</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/03/24/4000/#comment-19830</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes, many stats on Bush. You didn't answer the query I posed, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, many stats on Bush. You didn&#8217;t answer the query I posed, though.</p>
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		<title>by: billy Joe</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/03/24/4000/#comment-19799</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Qwerty... right off the top of my head we can definitely say that bush has:

1.  In 8 short years, doubled our level of national debt to the point where foreigners (even the Saudi 'Islamo-fascists') finance our wars.  That doesn't strike me as a healthy long-term trend for the most powerful country in the world.

2.  we are now viewed as one of the most dangerous countries on the planet (I recently read that Europeans trust *PUTIN* more than they trust us).

3.  The greatest terrorist incident in American history took place on his watch.  i'll remind you that after he took office, he never avenged the Cole bombing and in fact he either ignored the PDb warning him of an al Qaeda attack in the US or didn't even bother reading it.  That's 8 months of doing nothing when he could have been going after bin Laden.

4.  He then proceeded to basically lose an American city (new Orleans) and his vaunted 'Homeland Security' department, which was created specifically to deal with large-scale emergencies basically failed to respond to the completely predictable, slow motion 'attack' of Hurricane Katrina.  Of course the Gulf Coast is still very much wiped out.  If you ever get the chance to visit the Mississippi Gulf Coast, check it out.  It looks like Fallujah.

5.  He LOST at least $10,000,000,000 in Iraq.

6.  He invaded Iraq, a country where we knew going in that bin Laden was NOT located.  Now 4,000 troops are dead, 60,000 injured, we don't even know how many Iraqis have died and there are 4 million refugees both inside and outside of Iraq.  Our troops are bogged down there and we waste $12,000,000,000 a month there and have absolutely nothing to show for it and no end in sight.  It's a rudderless occupation.

Obviously I could go on for a long time.  I'll modify my statement to adhere to your rigorous intellectual standards and say 'he's the worst president of my lifetime' (I'm in my late 30's).

Perhaps you think someone else is worse?  His ancestor, the alcoholic President Franklin Pierce, might have been worse.  His poor decisions helped lay the groundwork for the civil war.  I'd argue that bush's poor decisions will bankrupt our country, just like bin Laden wanted to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Qwerty&#8230; right off the top of my head we can definitely say that bush has:</p>
<p>1.  In 8 short years, doubled our level of national debt to the point where foreigners (even the Saudi &#8216;Islamo-fascists&#8217;) finance our wars.  That doesn&#8217;t strike me as a healthy long-term trend for the most powerful country in the world.</p>
<p>2.  we are now viewed as one of the most dangerous countries on the planet (I recently read that Europeans trust <strong>PUTIN</strong> more than they trust us).</p>
<p>3.  The greatest terrorist incident in American history took place on his watch.  i&#8217;ll remind you that after he took office, he never avenged the Cole bombing and in fact he either ignored the PDb warning him of an al Qaeda attack in the US or didn&#8217;t even bother reading it.  That&#8217;s 8 months of doing nothing when he could have been going after bin Laden.</p>
<p>4.  He then proceeded to basically lose an American city (new Orleans) and his vaunted &#8216;Homeland Security&#8217; department, which was created specifically to deal with large-scale emergencies basically failed to respond to the completely predictable, slow motion &#8216;attack&#8217; of Hurricane Katrina.  Of course the Gulf Coast is still very much wiped out.  If you ever get the chance to visit the Mississippi Gulf Coast, check it out.  It looks like Fallujah.</p>
<p>5.  He LOST at least $10,000,000,000 in Iraq.</p>
<p>6.  He invaded Iraq, a country where we knew going in that bin Laden was NOT located.  Now 4,000 troops are dead, 60,000 injured, we don&#8217;t even know how many Iraqis have died and there are 4 million refugees both inside and outside of Iraq.  Our troops are bogged down there and we waste $12,000,000,000 a month there and have absolutely nothing to show for it and no end in sight.  It&#8217;s a rudderless occupation.</p>
<p>Obviously I could go on for a long time.  I&#8217;ll modify my statement to adhere to your rigorous intellectual standards and say &#8216;he&#8217;s the worst president of my lifetime&#8217; (I&#8217;m in my late 30&#8217;s).</p>
<p>Perhaps you think someone else is worse?  His ancestor, the alcoholic President Franklin Pierce, might have been worse.  His poor decisions helped lay the groundwork for the civil war.  I&#8217;d argue that bush&#8217;s poor decisions will bankrupt our country, just like bin Laden wanted to happen.</p>
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		<title>by: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/03/24/4000/#comment-19791</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>And what conclusion of the report are you ignoring, PW?

Run away now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what conclusion of the report are you ignoring, PW?</p>
<p>Run away now.</p>
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		<title>by: Protest Warrior</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/03/24/4000/#comment-19785</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>psst

hey meathead

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/26/investigation-concludes-saddam-was-a-terrorist-threat/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>psst</p>
<p>hey meathead</p>
<p>http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/26/investigation-concludes-saddam-was-a-terrorist-threat/</p>
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		<title>by: Qwerty</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/03/24/4000/#comment-19763</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"Worst.President.Ever."

Sorry, old chum, can't take that statement as anywhere near fact unless you provide us with material for comparison...the other 40-some Presidents, p'raps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Worst.President.Ever.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, old chum, can&#8217;t take that statement as anywhere near fact unless you provide us with material for comparison&#8230;the other 40-some Presidents, p&#8217;raps?</p>
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		<title>by: billy Joe</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/03/24/4000/#comment-19744</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>4000 dead and 60,000 wounded (15 to 1 wounded to KIA ratio, apparently).  Not to mention at least $500,000,000,000 spent already and the fact that we're actually borrowing (!) money to pay for the war from China, Japan and Saudi Arabia because American millionaires need tax breaks.  

I can't imagine a more perfect example of bush administation far-sightedness than borrowing (with interest) from foreigners to pay for a war that is still going on 5 years after it started and shows no signs of ending (because we're winning, right Protest Warrior?).  Whoopee for us!  

We haven't walked into bin Laden's trap to bog down our military and bankrupt our country at all!  bush is such a strategic genius that he didn't even invade the country that bin Laden is located in.

Worst.President.Ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4000 dead and 60,000 wounded (15 to 1 wounded to KIA ratio, apparently).  Not to mention at least $500,000,000,000 spent already and the fact that we&#8217;re actually borrowing (!) money to pay for the war from China, Japan and Saudi Arabia because American millionaires need tax breaks.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine a more perfect example of bush administation far-sightedness than borrowing (with interest) from foreigners to pay for a war that is still going on 5 years after it started and shows no signs of ending (because we&#8217;re winning, right Protest Warrior?).  Whoopee for us!  </p>
<p>We haven&#8217;t walked into bin Laden&#8217;s trap to bog down our military and bankrupt our country at all!  bush is such a strategic genius that he didn&#8217;t even invade the country that bin Laden is located in.</p>
<p>Worst.President.Ever.</p>
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		<title>by: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/03/24/4000/#comment-19738</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Celebrating what, specifically?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celebrating what, specifically?</p>
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		<title>by: Protest Warrior</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/03/24/4000/#comment-19737</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thinkingmeat.net/2008/03/24/4000/#comment-19737</guid>
					<description>Are you celebrating meathead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you celebrating meathead?</p>
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