Oh yeah, the surge is working, all right…

Sehr klug, Haenchen-kopf, sehr klug. Im Iraq-Krieg sind nur so wie vier tausend Maenner gestorben; im Mexican-Krieg sind 13.283 gestorben, und so weiter. Im Krieg des US sind ueber 562.000 Maenner gestorben. Iraq ist kein Krieg—es ist nur ein Skirmish. Du lump mit Loecher in deinem Kopf. Du bist eine puella/Maedchen.

Qwerty’s comment, as translated by Babelfish:

Very intelligently, Haenchen head, very intelligently. In the Iraq war only as four thousand men died; in the Mexican war 13,283 died, and so on. In the war US died over 562.000 men. Iraq is no war is only a Skirmish. You lump with holes in your head. You are a puella/Maedchen.

Note that the only responses Qwerty can formulate are to (a) toss off a few ad hominem attacks, and (b) pretend that by calling the war in Iraq something else, he has made an argument. Like most wingnuts, he is incapable of rational discussion.

As usual, Terry, you flatter yourself…

Like most fawning drooling knuckledragging socailists of the science fiction dreamworld types.

socialists – that was a typo

Notice that Cao is also incapable of addressing the substance of the post.

my comment is awaiting moderation? Since when?

Since I made a complete fool out of you?

Well that happens every day, despite your desire to feel superior over everyone….one look at you makes me realize why you have this faceless blog…nobody wants to look at those brown teeth of yours.

I’m capable of addressing it, but since I didn’t read it and don’t care, I don’t have to.

Moderation has been turned on for the past couple of weeks. A malformed URL in a comment corrupted the blog database, so moderation permits me to keep such URLs out of the database until I can work out an automated fix.

I’m capable of addressing it, but since I didn’t read it and don’t care, I don’t have to.

Cao is lying. She is in fact incapable of addressing the substance of the post for the very reason she gave: she chooses to be ignorant.

Several fatal errors have been made…good effort though. You’ve finally polished your German skills enough to copy-and-paste into a free Internet-based translator.

1) Never trust Babelfish. “Klug” is the adjective form, not adverb.
2) German uses the period for comma in numbers and vice versa. 562.000 in German = 562,000 in English.
3) Never trust Babelfish. There was a clear “es” in the fourth sentence that was left untranslated in the corresponding English.
4) Never trust Babelfish. “Haenchen” happens to mean chicken. It’s a kind of meat. Not an ad-hominem there. If a translator can’t recognize a representation of an umlaut when it sees it, get another one. It pays to use a better translator. Likewise with “Maedchen.” However, Babelfish’s translation of “Loecher” was correct. Two points.
5) Too bad there was a non-German word in there that you couldn’t translate. You’re smart enough to figure that one out.
6) It’s called comparing the numbers. 562,000:4,000::war:skirmish.
7) There were two names applied to you, not three. It’s called satiric nicknaming, not ad-hominem.

“Haenchen” happens to mean chicken. It’s a kind of meat. Not an ad-hominem there.

False. The phrase Qwerty used was meant as an ad hominem attack. Lying about his own comments does not enhance Qwerty’s credibility.

It’s called comparing the numbers.

It’s called pretending that calling the war in Iraq something else is an argument. It is not. It is intellectual cowardice.

It’s called satiric nicknaming, not ad-hominem.

False. The phrase Qwerty used was meant as an ad hominem attack. Lying about his own comments does not enhance Qwerty’s credibility.

I bow to your omniscience, O mind-reading one.

No mind reading is involved. When Qwerty calls someone a “chicken”, it’s an ad hominem attack, and nothing else. And when he substitutes the word “skirmish” for the word “war”, he is not making an argument — he is avoiding making an argument, and that is intellectual cowardice.

Meatbrain mindreads all the time, LOL…that’s why we have to ask him what we’re thinking…he knows instead of anyone else what everyone else is thinking

Moderation until further notice.

You’re just afraid people are going to make a stupid ass out of you…

but you do that really well all by yourself, Bisson.

The Air Surge is Working, TOO!

Is the “air surge” in Iraq a sign that the new military strategy is a failure? Not even close, says Bob Owens, who shows that the bombing campaigns are being coordinated with local Iraqis. What it has resulted in are “no U.S. casualties, no known civilian casualties, and the destruction of al Qaeda targets.”
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Oh no, Thinking Meat Terry Bisson’s lookalike can’t bear to see the truth – so he has to invent more science fiction for his socialist dreams!

According to Col. Terry Ferrell, commander of the 2nd Brigade, 3rd ID, the intelligence to plan the Jan. 10 air strikes came from local Iraqi civilians “protecting their own, protecting their towns” from al Qaeda in Iraq. The purpose of the Jan. 10 strikes was to eliminate defensive positions, including weapons caches and IEDs (including HBIEDs—structural bombs, homes rigged with heavy explosives) targeted at approaching coalition forces.

Local Iraqi civilians collected enough intelligence over the last several months to pinpoint more than 40 targets.

According to Col .Steven Boylan, many of the bombs dropped during the strike targeted deep-buried IEDs. Boylan also noted that many of the strikes triggered “numerous secondary explosions confirming the hits.” He also confirmed that this was “very sparsely populated area,” and that Iraqi civilians were evacuated in advance of the strikes.
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God forbid you should quote someone who’s actually over there, Bisson.

The Surge: Still Working
by Roger D. Carstens
Posted: 01/14/2008

But what you and your fellow propagandists want is to lose the war, isn’t it brown teeth?

Another example of the tremendous success of the surge:

Iraqi officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were authorized to release the information, raised the death toll of Friday’s attacks to at least 99 — 62 people in the first blast at the central al-Ghazl bazaar and 37 others about 20 minutes later at the New Baghdad area pigeon market in southeastern Baghdad.

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The bombings served as a reminder that Iraqi insurgents are constantly shifting their strategies in attempts to unravel recent security gains around the country. Women have been used in ever greater frequency in suicide attacks — six times now since November.

Friday’s blasts were the deadliest in the capital since an April 18 suicide car bombing that killed 116 and wounded 145.

What Cao and her fellow warpimps ignore — what they must ignore — is that local reductions in violence in Baghdad and other cities were not the primary goals of the surge. Those were only tactics, and while there have been some reductions in violence in some parts of Iraq, the actual goals of the surge, as laid out by both the Bush administration and the Iraqi government under Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, remain largely unmet. This was documented by a recent report from the Government Accountability Office.

There’s more on this at the National Security Network. Reconciliation and political progress in Iraq has bogged down. The soldiers whose lives have been sacrificed in the surge deserve better than to have pundits and wingnut bloggers declare that the surge has been a success in blatant disregard of the facts.

Be happy to refute your argument when you decide to make one meaty. Oh, and pretending that calling the skirmish in Iraq something else (a war)is an argument. It is not. It is intellectual cowardice don’tcha think?

By the way, Qwerty is exactly correct in the German meaty.

Oh, and picking at some supposed errors but ignoring factually correct statements is also cowardice meaty. Can’t understand why you don’t get it.

Be happy to refute your argument when you decide to make one meaty.

See above. GM ignores that fact that I have in fact made an argument. Like others of his kind, he is incapable of actual discussion.

I’ll ask the question straight out, with the expectation that the warpimps will be unwilling to address it: How can a strategy that has failed to achieve the majority of its stated objectives be considered a success?

I don’t understand how, but a previously approved comment of Qwerty’s has been deleted. It was:

”(should we break it to him, GM? That he’s using the proof-by-lack-of-evidence-to-the-contrary fallacy?)”

To which I replied:

What “lack of evidence” does Qwerty claim I am relying upon?

Precisely. Since I “don’t” provide evidence to prove I’m “not” an “intellectual coward,” your fallacy is to conclude that I “am” an “intellectual coward.” Look it up.

Of course, I have made no such argument. Qwerty is unable to muster anything more than a straw man.

The surge is working, for Big Oil, Halliburton, GE, Blackwater, etc.

If the Iraq war is a $1 trillion ‘skirmish’, then bush is even more incompetent than I previously thought.

Cao lives in the same upside down world as your typical right-wing naif: war is peace, success is failure, debt is wealth, failure is success, etc. Right-wing dupes are almost completely incapable of using actual data to support their absurd conclusions.

I didn’t realize Cao was a girl, either. The world is just full of surprises: big dog is a nurse, Cao is a girl, Wild bill of passionate America is a tough stay-at-home dad with a criminal record, the ‘Gathering of Eagles’ guys are so fat and lazy that they don’t even march when they do their protest warrior routine, etc.