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	<title>Comments on: Ogre: Self-admitted troll</title>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14834</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the attaboy, Johnny. It is truly amazing  --  and pathetic  --  how blatantly dishonest these people are. Raven makes an ad hominem attack specifically accusing me of lacking the male hormone, and Cao can argue (with an apparent straight face) that Raven's comment was not a "hormonal based argument". The mendacity displayed is of truly epic proportions.

When wingnuts says they want to hold someone "accountable" for what they say, what they mean is that they want to intimidate into silence those who dare to disagree with them. The poor dears actually confuse silencing a critic with "winning" an argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the attaboy, Johnny. It is truly amazing &#8212; and pathetic &#8212; how blatantly dishonest these people are. Raven makes an ad hominem attack specifically accusing me of lacking the male hormone, and Cao can argue (with an apparent straight face) that Raven&#8217;s comment was not a &#8220;hormonal based argument&#8221;. The mendacity displayed is of truly epic proportions.</p>
<p>When wingnuts says they want to hold someone &#8220;accountable&#8221; for what they say, what they mean is that they want to intimidate into silence those who dare to disagree with them. The poor dears actually confuse silencing a critic with &#8220;winning&#8221; an argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Coelacanth</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14796</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Coelacanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nasty troll infection you got here, Meaty. I had to come visit after reading about "MeatWatch." Apparently, you're so scary dangerous that you need a "watch" dedicated to you, you must be doing something right.

And Raven says you "WILL be held accountable for all he writes. In more ways than he can imagine right now." I was worried for you, but then I remembered that these are the people who think Bush is a great president and that Iraq was, is and always shall be a success. Oh yeah, and the Flight 93 Memorial is actually Teh Secret Jihadi Memorial!!! Oh noes! In short, keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nasty troll infection you got here, Meaty. I had to come visit after reading about &#8220;MeatWatch.&#8221; Apparently, you&#8217;re so scary dangerous that you need a &#8220;watch&#8221; dedicated to you, you must be doing something right.</p>
<p>And Raven says you &#8220;WILL be held accountable for all he writes. In more ways than he can imagine right now.&#8221; I was worried for you, but then I remembered that these are the people who think Bush is a great president and that Iraq was, is and always shall be a success. Oh yeah, and the Flight 93 Memorial is actually Teh Secret Jihadi Memorial!!! Oh noes! In short, keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Cao</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14792</link>
		<dc:creator>Cao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a liar, meatybites.  Raven's comment about your having no balls is not a hormonal based argument.  Your cowardice is a point of fact, and evidenced by your lying.  Ogre never admitted he was a troll, so that would make even your headline a lie.  

It was refreshing to see you pick on a former Marine, Ogre...at least once in a while you can pretend you're a man...but the pansy anti-military ideology of leftists like your idol or should I say love interest? Rachel Meeropol is more about exploring your female side, I guess.  Which goes back to the truth of what Raven said about hormonal based arguments, and your responding lie.

Like Sally Field said, if women ran the world, there would be no more wars.  

Do you like to wear makeup, like the Taliban or Goering who dressed up in women's clothes and &lt;a href="http://caosblog.com/2072"&gt;certain male representatives of Code Pink who paint their fingernails?&lt;/a&gt;

Ogre definitely wins; he has a man card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a liar, meatybites.  Raven&#8217;s comment about your having no balls is not a hormonal based argument.  Your cowardice is a point of fact, and evidenced by your lying.  Ogre never admitted he was a troll, so that would make even your headline a lie.  </p>
<p>It was refreshing to see you pick on a former Marine, Ogre&#8230;at least once in a while you can pretend you&#8217;re a man&#8230;but the pansy anti-military ideology of leftists like your idol or should I say love interest? Rachel Meeropol is more about exploring your female side, I guess.  Which goes back to the truth of what Raven said about hormonal based arguments, and your responding lie.</p>
<p>Like Sally Field said, if women ran the world, there would be no more wars.  </p>
<p>Do you like to wear makeup, like the Taliban or Goering who dressed up in women&#8217;s clothes and <a href="http://caosblog.com/2072">certain male representatives of Code Pink who paint their fingernails?</a></p>
<p>Ogre definitely wins; he has a man card.</p>
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		<title>By: kender</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14783</link>
		<dc:creator>kender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src='/images/kendermonkey100x100.jpg' width='100' height='100' class='floatleft'/&gt; meaty's lies are so ponderous now that documentation of them is going to take more pixels than we have at our disposal........

and where's my avatar?

meaty stole my avatar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src='/images/kendermonkey100x100.jpg' width='100' height='100' class='floatleft'/> meaty&#8217;s lies are so ponderous now that documentation of them is going to take more pixels than we have at our disposal&#8230;.....</p>
<p>and where&#8217;s my avatar?</p>
<p>meaty stole my avatar</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14781</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ogre conveniently forgets to document the lie he claims I have posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ogre conveniently forgets to document the lie he claims I have posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Ogre</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14780</link>
		<dc:creator>Ogre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and did anyone else notice that Meaty can't tell the difference between "you" and "they" AND the difference between "a" and calling someone a name?  Man.  Visiting this place is like reading a bad science fiction novel -- I just completely leave earth and visit a strange place where normal laws of physics and reality don't exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and did anyone else notice that Meaty can&#8217;t tell the difference between &#8220;you&#8221; and &#8220;they&#8221; AND the difference between &#8220;a&#8221; and calling someone a name?  Man.  Visiting this place is like reading a bad science fiction novel&#8212;I just completely leave earth and visit a strange place where normal laws of physics and reality don&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Ogre</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14779</link>
		<dc:creator>Ogre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet another lie.  He even lies about lying.  Incredible.

I think perhaps Meatbrain has Histrionic personality disorder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet another lie.  He even lies about lying.  Incredible.</p>
<p>I think perhaps Meatbrain has Histrionic personality disorder.</p>
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		<title>By: kender</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14777</link>
		<dc:creator>kender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src='/images/kendermonkey100x100.jpg' width='100' height='100' class='floatleft'/&gt; HEY!!!!!

Where the hell is my picture of your mom meaty?  You know the one....the one that says I claim you fling poo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src='/images/kendermonkey100x100.jpg' width='100' height='100' class='floatleft'/> HEY!!!!!</p>
<p>Where the hell is my picture of your mom meaty?  You know the one&#8230;.the one that says I claim you fling poo?</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14776</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bq. In the lines above that, Raven did not, in fact, call anyone a name. She described that actions of Meaty, but did not call Meaty anything at all.

&lt;a href="#comment-14772"&gt;False&lt;/a&gt;:

bq. ...you are a Kool Aid drinker to Soros and company...

Ogre again demonstrates his willingness to lie outright, despite the plain facts.</description>
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<p>In the lines above that, Raven did not, in fact, call anyone a name. She described that actions of Meaty, but did not call Meaty anything at all.</p>
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<p><a href="#comment-14772">False</a>:</p>
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<p>...you are a Kool Aid drinker to Soros and company&#8230;</p>
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<p>Ogre again demonstrates his willingness to lie outright, despite the plain facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14775</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darn Ogre...Meaty doesn't really READ does he? He skims and makes assumptions, perhaps?

Now who is cognitively dissonant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darn Ogre&#8230;Meaty doesn&#8217;t really READ does he? He skims and makes assumptions, perhaps?</p>
<p>Now who is cognitively dissonant?</p>
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		<title>By: Ogre</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14774</link>
		<dc:creator>Ogre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey look -- did you see the Meaty lie again?  Go ahead, check back and see if you can find it.  I'll give you a hint -- it's in the comment just before this one.  Go ahead and look, I'll wait.

Hmmmm....

Did you find it yet?

Okay, in case you didn't, I'll point out yet another Meaty lie.  Meaty said:
"Raven...employs name-calling"

In the lines above that, Raven did not, in fact, call anyone a name.  She described that actions of Meaty, but did not call Meaty anything at all.

Yes, AGAIN Meatbrain continues to lie!  Imagine that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey look&#8212;did you see the Meaty lie again?  Go ahead, check back and see if you can find it.  I&#8217;ll give you a hint&#8212;it&#8217;s in the comment just before this one.  Go ahead and look, I&#8217;ll wait.</p>
<p>Hmmmm&#8230;.</p>
<p>Did you find it yet?</p>
<p>Okay, in case you didn&#8217;t, I&#8217;ll point out yet another Meaty lie.  Meaty said:<br />
&#8220;Raven&#8230;employs name-calling&#8221;</p>
<p>In the lines above that, Raven did not, in fact, call anyone a name.  She described that actions of Meaty, but did not call Meaty anything at all.</p>
<p>Yes, AGAIN Meatbrain continues to lie!  Imagine that!</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14773</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bq. When Ogre writes at his own site, he is not a troll. IF he were to write posts about other sites and use faulty logic to assail said sites, he would be a troll.

Ogre didn't base his definition of a troll on where something is said. He based it on the content of what is said. And what he said meets his own definition of trolling.

bq. Your use of lies, name calling, rule changing and other liberal tactics are becoming quite clear- you are a Kool Aid drinker to Soros and company.

Note that Raven both derides and employs name-calling in the same sentence. The cognitive dissonance she displays here is mind-boggling.

bq. I think liberals in general have an overabundance of estrogen and a severe lack of testosterone and somehow someone needs to fix this imbalance.

Compare and contrast to Raven's &lt;a href="#comment-14760"&gt;bewailing the use of "hormonal based argument", above&lt;/a&gt;. Two stunning displays of cognitive dissonance in one comment  --  that's impressive, even for Raven.</description>
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<p>When Ogre writes at his own site, he is not a troll. IF he were to write posts about other sites and use faulty logic to assail said sites, he would be a troll.</p>
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<p>Ogre didn&#8217;t base his definition of a troll on where something is said. He based it on the content of what is said. And what he said meets his own definition of trolling.</p>
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<p>Your use of lies, name calling, rule changing and other liberal tactics are becoming quite clear- you are a Kool Aid drinker to Soros and company.</p>
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<p>Note that Raven both derides and employs name-calling in the same sentence. The cognitive dissonance she displays here is mind-boggling.</p>
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<p>I think liberals in general have an overabundance of estrogen and a severe lack of testosterone and somehow someone needs to fix this imbalance.</p>
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<p>Compare and contrast to Raven&#8217;s <a href="#comment-14760">bewailing the use of &#8220;hormonal based argument&#8221;, above</a>. Two stunning displays of cognitive dissonance in one comment &#8212; that&#8217;s impressive, even for Raven.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14772</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>False.

When Ogre writes at his own site, he is not a troll. IF he were to write posts about other sites and use faulty logic to assail said sites, he would be a troll.


You, on the other hand, go around to other sites and write posts such as this one, in an effort to bait people. To stir the pot.  You offer nothing to the political discourse and in fact, by refusing to truly debate, you are adding to the increasingly negative trends we're seeing within the political discourse. 

Your use of lies, name calling, rule changing and other liberal tactics are becoming quite clear- you are a Kool Aid drinker to Soros and company. But you don't see that. You don't see that you're a follower and not a leader.  

We understand your plight Meaty...all that estrogen running in your system has whacked you out- I know what it's like...I'm a woman after all. 
I think liberals in general have an overabundance of estrogen and a severe lack of testosterone and somehow someone needs to fix this imbalance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>False.</p>
<p>When Ogre writes at his own site, he is not a troll. IF he were to write posts about other sites and use faulty logic to assail said sites, he would be a troll.</p>
<p>You, on the other hand, go around to other sites and write posts such as this one, in an effort to bait people. To stir the pot.  You offer nothing to the political discourse and in fact, by refusing to truly debate, you are adding to the increasingly negative trends we&#8217;re seeing within the political discourse. </p>
<p>Your use of lies, name calling, rule changing and other liberal tactics are becoming quite clear- you are a Kool Aid drinker to Soros and company. But you don&#8217;t see that. You don&#8217;t see that you&#8217;re a follower and not a leader.  </p>
<p>We understand your plight Meaty&#8230;all that estrogen running in your system has whacked you out- I know what it&#8217;s like&#8230;I&#8217;m a woman after all. <br />
I think liberals in general have an overabundance of estrogen and a severe lack of testosterone and somehow someone needs to fix this imbalance.</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14771</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except, of course, that Ogre displayed exactly the behavior that he attributes to trolls.

That is what is known as a tacit admission. I apologize to Ogre for employing a concept with which he is clearly unfamiliar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except, of course, that Ogre displayed exactly the behavior that he attributes to trolls.</p>
<p>That is what is known as a tacit admission. I apologize to Ogre for employing a concept with which he is clearly unfamiliar.</p>
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		<title>By: Ogre</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/11/08/ogre-self-admitted-troll/#comment-14770</link>
		<dc:creator>Ogre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey look, everyone, Meaty's lying!  What a shock!

Meaty's claim, via the title of this post:

"Ogre: Self-admitted troll"

Reality (this is the part of the comment that Meaty will not be able to view on his computer):

I never once, myself, admitted I was a troll.

Therefore, Meatbrain is lying once again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey look, everyone, Meaty&#8217;s lying!  What a shock!</p>
<p>Meaty&#8217;s claim, via the title of this post:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ogre: Self-admitted troll&#8221;</p>
<p>Reality (this is the part of the comment that Meaty will not be able to view on his computer):</p>
<p>I never once, myself, admitted I was a troll.</p>
<p>Therefore, Meatbrain is lying once again!</p>
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