Ogre: Self-admitted troll

November 8, 2007 in Political Animals | 24 comments

It’s amusing to watch the wingnuts trip over their own bile. Ogre has outed himself as a troll.

Ogre, today:

But this is the world of liberals today. They honestly believe that they are gods in America. They believe they know exactly how much people should pay for everything because they’re smarter than everyone else. And they hate freedom (even if they won’t admit it).

Ogre, yesterday:

When you start telling me what my thoughts and feelings are, that’s not debate, so I choose not to participate. If you want to talk about reality and facts, I debate. When you just call names and make up crap because you want to, that’s just trolling.

Ogre can tell you what liberals believe and feel. But if someone dares do it to him — well, that’s just terrible. Only trolls do that.

Gotta love that wingnut hypocrisy.

UPDATE 11/09/07 7:28 AM EST: I am overjoyed to report that Raven has jumped in to make certain that the comedy never ends. First, she tells us how to detect a liberal:

And, liberals attack with emotions and hormonal based argument.

And in the very next sentence she outs herself as a liberal by employing a hormone-based argument:

…Your severe lacking of testosterone shows…

God, my sides hurt.

  1. kender on November 8, 2007 at 11:38 pm

    Meaty, how much do you think we should pay in taxes?

    And why do you think that?

  2. kender on November 8, 2007 at 11:42 pm

    and why do you take things out of context? Ogre’s post was about the government regulating the cost of things like healthcare.

    Do you think healthcare costs should be regulated?

  3. Raven on November 8, 2007 at 11:48 pm

    So Meaty where is this hypocrisy you speak of? I’ve been following Ogre’s posts and I just don’t get your point here? Everyone knows how liberals feel. It’s all emotional based rhetoric and not fact based- that is the truth Ogre is speaking of. Just because you don’t like that doesn’t make it NOT SO. And, liberals attack with emotions and hormonal based argument. You’re an exception though: Your severe lacking of testosterone shows and we do have a little empathy for you.

    We know you’re not a real man. If you were you would start answering the questions we put to you instead of calling us “LIARS!!!” and “Lizrardbitches” and “Cretins”—- with such feminine emotion you used these terms.

  4. kender on November 8, 2007 at 11:54 pm

    be careful raven…..calling meaty out on its lack of testosterone will get you marked as a person bigoted against creatures that have an over abundance of estrogen, which of course is meaty…...you can tell it has a ton of estrogen…...it whines a lot and is a little evasive bitch about questions placed to it…...of course meaty MAY be female but I doubt it at the moment….maybe after the surgery though…...

  5. Raven on November 8, 2007 at 11:58 pm

    Hey I have more testosterone than Meaty but that’s not my fault Kender!! I can’t control what I was born with…although I am more a man then he will ever be I AM VERRY MUCH A WOMAN. YOU know that Kender.

    Anyway back to the topic at hand…am I a bigot because I was born a certain way? I thought that gave me special rights and privvies for special class and placement and opportunities. You know: reverse discrimination.

    We bigots are a special class…according to some.

  6. kender on November 9, 2007 at 12:03 am

    well…you ARE female, which gives you some leeway BUT you are white…..not me though:

    http://kendersmusings.blogspot.com/2007/11/cussing-below-fold.html

  7. Raven on November 9, 2007 at 12:38 am

    Well Kender since you’re an African American Lesbian Buddhist with one leg, a stutter and a slight case of downs YOU certainly deserve more privvies than I…and I will gladly give you a little less than half my income so that you may not have to work, to provide for yourself…being a black lesbian with one leg and a stutter is just awful. YOU HAVE FULL RIGHT to my money and the freedom, er, freebies that come with it.

    Me? Who cares? I’ll just keep working and busting my ass to make sure you don’t have to.

  8. Cao on November 9, 2007 at 7:07 am

    Ogre’s not a ‘self admitted troll’, with this post and many others, you’re the “troll”, under Wikipedia’s definition:

    An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who intentionally posts controversial or contrary messages in an on-line community such as an on-line discussion forum or group with the intention of baiting users into an argumentative response

    It’s amazing that you can’t see what you are doing to your own self, meathead. This is not only negative attention seeking behavior, this is sel destructive behavior.

    Ogre is just pointing out some ‘inconvenient truths’ to leftists who wouldn’t dare confront the truth because that would mean they’re ‘discriminating’.

    It’s too bad you don’t like his requirement of facing reality and using facts.

    Ogre said that if you can debate with facts without making up stuff …then he will debate you. And that makes HIM a TROLL?

    bwahahahah! There is nothing ‘controversial’ about that, meathead!

  10. Ogre on November 9, 2007 at 8:35 am

    Hey look, everyone, Meaty’s lying! What a shock!

    Meaty’s claim, via the title of this post:

    “Ogre: Self-admitted troll”

    Reality (this is the part of the comment that Meaty will not be able to view on his computer):

    I never once, myself, admitted I was a troll.

    Therefore, Meatbrain is lying once again!

  11. meatbrain on November 9, 2007 at 8:48 am

    Except, of course, that Ogre displayed exactly the behavior that he attributes to trolls.

    That is what is known as a tacit admission. I apologize to Ogre for employing a concept with which he is clearly unfamiliar.

  12. Raven on November 9, 2007 at 9:54 am

    False.

    When Ogre writes at his own site, he is not a troll. IF he were to write posts about other sites and use faulty logic to assail said sites, he would be a troll.

    You, on the other hand, go around to other sites and write posts such as this one, in an effort to bait people. To stir the pot. You offer nothing to the political discourse and in fact, by refusing to truly debate, you are adding to the increasingly negative trends we’re seeing within the political discourse.

    Your use of lies, name calling, rule changing and other liberal tactics are becoming quite clear- you are a Kool Aid drinker to Soros and company. But you don’t see that. You don’t see that you’re a follower and not a leader.

    We understand your plight Meaty…all that estrogen running in your system has whacked you out- I know what it’s like…I’m a woman after all.
    I think liberals in general have an overabundance of estrogen and a severe lack of testosterone and somehow someone needs to fix this imbalance.

  13. meatbrain on November 9, 2007 at 10:32 am

    When Ogre writes at his own site, he is not a troll. IF he were to write posts about other sites and use faulty logic to assail said sites, he would be a troll.

    Ogre didn’t base his definition of a troll on where something is said. He based it on the content of what is said. And what he said meets his own definition of trolling.

    Your use of lies, name calling, rule changing and other liberal tactics are becoming quite clear- you are a Kool Aid drinker to Soros and company.

    Note that Raven both derides and employs name-calling in the same sentence. The cognitive dissonance she displays here is mind-boggling.

    I think liberals in general have an overabundance of estrogen and a severe lack of testosterone and somehow someone needs to fix this imbalance.

    Compare and contrast to Raven’s bewailing the use of “hormonal based argument”, above. Two stunning displays of cognitive dissonance in one comment — that’s impressive, even for Raven.

  14. Ogre on November 9, 2007 at 10:43 am

    Hey look—did you see the Meaty lie again? Go ahead, check back and see if you can find it. I’ll give you a hint—it’s in the comment just before this one. Go ahead and look, I’ll wait.

    Hmmmm….

    Did you find it yet?

    Okay, in case you didn’t, I’ll point out yet another Meaty lie. Meaty said:
    “Raven…employs name-calling”

    In the lines above that, Raven did not, in fact, call anyone a name. She described that actions of Meaty, but did not call Meaty anything at all.

    Yes, AGAIN Meatbrain continues to lie! Imagine that!

  15. Raven on November 9, 2007 at 10:53 am

    Darn Ogre…Meaty doesn’t really READ does he? He skims and makes assumptions, perhaps?

    Now who is cognitively dissonant?

  16. meatbrain on November 9, 2007 at 11:29 am

    In the lines above that, Raven did not, in fact, call anyone a name. She described that actions of Meaty, but did not call Meaty anything at all.

    False:

    ...you are a Kool Aid drinker to Soros and company…

    Ogre again demonstrates his willingness to lie outright, despite the plain facts.

  17. kender on November 9, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    HEY!!!!!

    Where the hell is my picture of your mom meaty? You know the one….the one that says I claim you fling poo?

  18. Ogre on November 9, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    And yet another lie. He even lies about lying. Incredible.

    I think perhaps Meatbrain has Histrionic personality disorder.

  19. Ogre on November 9, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    Oh, and did anyone else notice that Meaty can’t tell the difference between “you” and “they” AND the difference between “a” and calling someone a name? Man. Visiting this place is like reading a bad science fiction novel—I just completely leave earth and visit a strange place where normal laws of physics and reality don’t exist.

  20. meatbrain on November 9, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    Ogre conveniently forgets to document the lie he claims I have posted.

  21. kender on November 9, 2007 at 5:29 pm

    meaty’s lies are so ponderous now that documentation of them is going to take more pixels than we have at our disposal….....

    and where’s my avatar?

    meaty stole my avatar

  22. Cao on November 10, 2007 at 7:43 am

    You are a liar, meatybites. Raven’s comment about your having no balls is not a hormonal based argument. Your cowardice is a point of fact, and evidenced by your lying. Ogre never admitted he was a troll, so that would make even your headline a lie.

    It was refreshing to see you pick on a former Marine, Ogre…at least once in a while you can pretend you’re a man…but the pansy anti-military ideology of leftists like your idol or should I say love interest? Rachel Meeropol is more about exploring your female side, I guess. Which goes back to the truth of what Raven said about hormonal based arguments, and your responding lie.

    Like Sally Field said, if women ran the world, there would be no more wars.

    Do you like to wear makeup, like the Taliban or Goering who dressed up in women’s clothes and certain male representatives of Code Pink who paint their fingernails?

    Ogre definitely wins; he has a man card.

  23. Johnny Coelacanth on November 10, 2007 at 11:03 am

    Nasty troll infection you got here, Meaty. I had to come visit after reading about “MeatWatch.” Apparently, you’re so scary dangerous that you need a “watch” dedicated to you, you must be doing something right.

    And Raven says you “WILL be held accountable for all he writes. In more ways than he can imagine right now.” I was worried for you, but then I remembered that these are the people who think Bush is a great president and that Iraq was, is and always shall be a success. Oh yeah, and the Flight 93 Memorial is actually Teh Secret Jihadi Memorial!!! Oh noes! In short, keep up the good work.

  24. meatbrain on November 11, 2007 at 7:49 pm

    Thanks for the attaboy, Johnny. It is truly amazing — and pathetic — how blatantly dishonest these people are. Raven makes an ad hominem attack specifically accusing me of lacking the male hormone, and Cao can argue (with an apparent straight face) that Raven’s comment was not a “hormonal based argument”. The mendacity displayed is of truly epic proportions.

    When wingnuts says they want to hold someone “accountable” for what they say, what they mean is that they want to intimidate into silence those who dare to disagree with them. The poor dears actually confuse silencing a critic with “winning” an argument.