Tell me again that it’s only Muslims who resort to violence over matters of religion...

A melee broke out in Sweden outside a photography exhibit depicting Jesus as a homosexual.

Artist Elisabeth Ohlson Wallin created the Ecce Homo exhibit 10 years ago, and it has been controversial ever since.

On Sunday, a group of young people tried to set fire to a poster at the Jonkoping Kulturhuset, The Local reported.

Staff members tried to stop them, leading to a fight involving about 30 people, said Tony el Zouki, the director of the Kulturhuset.

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Yes, because a “melee” is on par with burning down embassies and threatening holocausts.

Shitmonkey again demonstrates its love of logical fallacy — in this case, the ever-popular straw man. No argument that the actions of the mob in Sweden was “on par with” anything else has been made.

The simple fact remains that Muslims are not unique in the willingness to commit religiously-inspired violence.

Douche.

No one has said that they ARE unique. Nice straw man of your own.

You have pointed out ONE act of “violence” attributed to Christians attacking those slandering their faith. No one is dead either. There are always people doing things in the name of their religion, murdering their kids because “God told ‘em to” or protesting funerals (Westboro “Baptist” Church). But they are few and far between. They are usually shunned and not growing in popularity. You’d be hard-pressed to start a website that tracks only Christian acts of violence or terrorism, or even Jewish, or even Hindu.

In comparison, Muslims are slaughtering people by the thousands in the name of their religion. They are openly threatening those who slander their ‘prophet’ with death. I do believe it is obvious which religion at this point is acting with more hostility towards the world.

But if it makes you feel better to know that somewhere in the world, there are Christofascists causing “melees” as opposed to a growing movement of radical islamists who want to force sharia law and create a one-world caliphate…

No one has said that they ARE unique. Nice straw man of your own.

To whom, specifically, have I attributed the argument that Muslims are unique in the willingness to commit religiously-inspired violence? It’s a straw man only if it is a misrepresentation of someone else’s specific argument. Name that person.

I do believe it is obvious which religion at this point is acting with more hostility towards the world.

Religions do not act. People do.

But if it makes you feel better to assist in the spread of religious bigotry…

“To whom, specifically, have I attributed the argument that Muslims are unique in the willingness to commit religiously-inspired violence?”

Here you go Meaty:

Your first post, “Tell me again that it’s only Muslims who resort to violence over matters of religion…”

Your response to Kender “The simple fact remains that Muslims are not unique in the willingness to commit religiously-inspired violence.”

So, you made that argument to your general readership, and then to Kender.

“Religions do not act. People do.”

Are you a gun rights advocate now also because that also sounds like “Gun’s Don’t Kill People, People Kill People’.

To whom, specifically, have I attributed the argument that Muslims are unique in the willingness to commit religiously-inspired violence?

Pointing out the fact that Muslims are not unique in this regard is not the same thing as restating someone else’s argument in a weakened or distorted form (which is the essence of the straw man fallacy). Perhaps you should become familiar with the actual definition of this fallacy before you start accusing others of employing it.

Meaty,

You are making an argument that Muslims are not unique in their love of violence. In order to do that, you must believe that someone, somewhere has that belief or stated that argument. Kender points out that the level and frequency is not the same as with Islam. You restate again the “they’re not unique” statement, something Kender did not argue.

You then jump up and down screaming “Strawman” in some attempt to point out that someone else is treading on territory you believe you own (that is the mass production of scarecrows) and set up another one yourself, against some phantom menace that is claiming that Muslim’s are somehow unique.

And here is how it is a strawman. Because many point out that radical islam, which appears to have growing support in Muslim communties, you feel the need to argue against such a ‘religiously bigoted’ stance. But since there is overwhelming evidence that Islam is currently living out a bloodthirsty phase, you have to change the argument (misrepresent) that us religious bigots are saying that Muslim’s are the only ones capable of such heinous violence. I don’t have to give you a person to attribute the ‘unique’ argument to, you have taken the counterpoint to an argument no one is making….

You are making an argument that Muslims are not unique in their love of violence.

I said nothing about anyone’s “love of violence”. The discussion is about the use of violence.

In order to do that, you must believe that someone, somewhere has that belief or stated that argument.

Why? Do all arguments exist only because someone else holds some belief or has made some other argument?

Kender points out that the level and frequency is not the same as with Islam.

Kender mentioned neither level nor frequency. He mischaracterized my argument, and I pointed out the mischaracterization.

You then jump up and down screaming “Strawman” in some attempt to point out that someone else is treading on territory you believe you own (that is the mass production of scarecrows)...

Laughable. You know nothing of my beliefs, Duncan. You know only your own caricature of my beliefs.

...and set up another one yourself, against some phantom menace that is claiming that Muslim’s are somehow unique.

The “phantom menace” is your own invention, Duncan. I certainly made no mention of such.

But since there is overwhelming evidence that Islam is currently living out a bloodthirsty phase, you have to change the argument (misrepresent) that us religious bigots are saying that Muslim’s are the only ones capable of such heinous violence.

I pointed out that Muslims are not unique in this regard. If you wish to view that as an personal attack on your own bigoted stance, that is your privilege.

“I said nothing about anyone’s “love of violence”. The discussion is about the use of violence.”

True. You did not use the word “love” In this case I used the word love to imply that they must love it as that seems to be their first reaction to some slight.

“Why? Do all arguments exist only because someone else holds some belief or has made some other argument?”

Usually an argument is not in a vacuum. But when you state in your post titled “TELL ME AGAIN”, someone must have told you this argument before. Or are you lying in your post.. using Meaty definition of lying.

“Kender mentioned neither level nor frequency.”

Um. Kender pointed out the level foshizzle. He mentioned burning EMBASSIES and HOLOCAUSTS. Sounds like the level has been addressed, and the fact that he pointed out just TWO examples addresses the frequency in a small way.

“Laughable. You know nothing of my beliefs, Duncan. You know only your own caricature of my beliefs.”

You are right on that one Meaty, I have no clue about your beliefs… other than what I can interpolate from your posts. And as well as know, caricatures have some root in reality…

“The “phantom menace” is your own invention, Duncan. I certainly made no mention of such.”

Well, someone told you that Muslim’s were unique (reference title of your post again). I don’t know that person or persons.. and you won’t reveal your source.. so I guess they’re some sort of phantom.. perhaps just the voices in your head?

“I pointed out that Muslims are not unique in this regard. If you wish to view that as an personal attack on your own bigoted stance, that is your privilege.”

Yes, you did point out the Muslim’s are not the only people on this planet able to inflict harm and violence. Good job. Tough stance I’ll tell ya since there probably are not very many sane people who would disagree with it.

But as far as my “bigoted” stance, I do not take that as a personal attack, especially coming from you, even though you were the one implying that I was assisting “the spread of religious bigotry” in some form or fashion…

NONONONOOOO….meatys statement starting with “Tell me again” (implying he has been told this in the past) doesn’t have to mean he was actually told that in the past. He is the Great and All Powerful Meatbrain, and what he says his words mean then dammit they mean just that and not what normal people understand them to mean.

So when meaty states “tell me again” it does not mean (as it would were a lesser mortal to use the phrase) “I have been told this once before (at least)”, it means I am claiming this has been said, but I don’t have to point out who said it or when, for I am the Almighty Meatbrain, Giver of Definitions.

Just like when meaty claims that someone lied when they actually paraphrased and then refuses to put forward an opinion on who the statement was referring to, it actually means that SOMEONE LIED BECAUSE MEATY SAID SO!!!!!!

I have not seen anyone claim that muslims were the only ones acting violently for their religion, but for every ONE you find of christians (and when was the last time a christian killed someone over religion?) you will find a hundred or more from followers of the arabian moon god.

Damn meaty….you are getting so easy to shred….you off your meds or something?

Sorry Kender, I forgot we were talking to meaty here.

I think the reason that meaty is becoming so easy to refute and shred is because he picks outrageous and hard (to impossible) positions to defend. He attacks hyperbole and paraphrase and that makes him seem all the more like the outrageous moonbats over at Kos and DU. Sad.

Duncan and shitmonkey are, of course, engaging in the time-honored ritual of their kind: victory by proclamation.

and meaty is engaging in his favorite past time…...refusing to answer questions.

So meaty, who said that muslims were the only ones to engage in violence?

You implied it was said, so who said it?

(crickets chirping) (Google search engine whirring as Meaty frantically searches for a quote from SOMEONE, ANYONE) (lone wolf howl)

damn dude…..meaty must psychically be feeling like he’s been, well, crucified this last week…..and it aint even easter.

and he certainly does not walk on water…

I am thinking that Meaty has given up on this losing battle also. I have noticed that when he feels like he is in a good position to have a strong argument, or atleast one the he believes strongly in, he’ll put up quite a fight. Or perhaps he believes we are trolling his site and he doesn’t want to feed us anymore.. who knows…

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