Some folks, it seems, are incapable of learning from their mistakes. Jim Hoft, who blogs as “Gateway Pundit”, is apparently one of these.
Despite the fact that his lies have been exposed again and again and again, he continues to lie. This time, he posts a deliberate misquote of a statement from Barack Obama:
"US Troops Are Just Air Raiding Villages & Killing Civilians"
Hoft even posts the video of Obama’s remarks:
Listen to the video. Does Obama use the phrase “US Troops Are Just Air Raiding Villages & Killing Civilians”? Nope.
Yes, he says something very similar, and the meaning of what he said can certainly be debated — but that debate can take place without deliberately misquoting the man. Yet that is what Jim Hoft, a lying pig turd of a non-man if ever there was one, has done.
There is no lie that Jim Hoft will not tell.
That bears repeating:
THERE IS NO LIE THAT JIM HOFT WILL NOT TELL.
Keep lying, Jimbo.
It really is the only talent you have.
UPDATE 08/16/07 07:12 AM: Notice the tactics employed in the attacks on me in the comments below. This is what could be termed the “pack of hyenas” gambit. The idea is to flood the comments thread with multiple declarations that my detractors have “won the debate” — and therefore, magically, they have won the debate without ever demonstrating that my original statement was in error.
As to Duncan Avatar’s argument that Hoft “paraphrased” Obama: That might be believable if we did not have multiple instances of Hoft lying to his readers in the past. But since we do know that Hoft deliberately lies about what other people have said, the “paraphrase” defense is untenable.
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I bet I know a lie Jim Hoft wouldn’t tell.“Meathead from thinkingmeat.net is teh most astute blogger out there and a damned good friend o f mine.”
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And here’s another lie no one would tell:
“Raven thinks Thinking Meat is HAWT!! She finds his manner of debate honorable and respectable. She thinks he’s DA MAN!!”
(gag me)
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Raven you liar you…......
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Meaty: “pig turd of a non-man” your phrase to describe Jim Hoft. Now, using your sense of propriety, I’m going to guess that you can substantiate that he is A) a “non-man” and thus, either a woman or a being of another species; and B) you can chemically substantiate that he is composed of the excrement of swine.
I’m waiting meaty. Or, did you use a tad bit of hyperbole or did you LIE?
Oh, and so that you won’t accuse me of taking your comment out of context, here is the whole sentence: “Yet that is what Jim Hoft, a lying pig turd of a non-man if ever there was one, has done.”
Oh, and meaty, let me add that when you included the phrase ”... if there ever was one, ...” you have made a statement of fact. Now, I know for an absolute fact that Jim is a male of the species Homo Sapiens and that he is composed of the same type of flesh that both you and I are made of, thus, calling him a pig turd and a non-man is a flat out lie in your oh so rightous, indignant LIE of a post.
I assume now that you will acknowledge you are a liar.
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oh damn double snap the smack down rigns supreme today meaty old boy..
Meaty is a liar too? Say it aint so GMan….you have ruined my abiding rock of truth by exposing meaty as a liar.
Oh woe is me what shall I do?
BWAHAHAHAHAAAA
Meaty got smacked down
meaty got smacked down
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actually now that GM mentions Meaty’s logic, he calls me a bitch. Which is not an insult to me coming from him.
HOWEVER the Dictionary defines a BITCH as a female dog. Since I am a female HUMAN being, Meaty has once again LIED!!!
HE LIED!!
HE DID NOT MISQUOTE the dictionary!!
HE LIED!!
Now Meaty-
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AAARRRGGGHHHHHH….stop calling my friend a liar…...I trust meaty to show me the truth of all things…..he is my rock, my way, and my light…
You are destroying my world…...Crap….now I am a liar as well.
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Know the lie, and the meaty will set you free!
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Big Dog… this statement:
“Remember that you are helping mankind because every load that hits the toilet is one more load that can not reproduce a meathead.”
is very.. very ouch. Nice one.
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GM,
Nice. you pretty much used Meaty’s logic, and definition of a lie, against him to further prove our point that Hoft didn’t lie. His argument layeth on the ground.. shreded beyond recognition.. poor.. poor meaty…
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meaty wont even respond to emails….how rude.
I can understand being a liar, but a rude liar is just uncalled for.
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Thinking Meat,
I am appalled that you would take MY words and so twist them in such a meaningless and pointless argument here. This is not at all helpful when we’re trying to win the hearts and minds of fellow right leaning citizens.
I DID say the words. I DID mean what I said too- that American troops are just killing citizens by air raids and other means. We’re at war for Pete’s sake Meatbrain. Use your sense of logic. An illegal war; a war that was started based on faulty intelligence and BIG OIL needs; a war that Bush cannot get us out of. BUT I CAN.
My plan is to offer platters of cookies and Milk to the enemies. From what I have read here though perhaps you have a better idea, my friend!
We will offer the enemies jars of Jergens Lotion and Gallons of Mountain Dew! That will win over the hearts and minds of enemies everywhere. MeatBrain I need your help. YOU need to show the enemy how to use that Jergens- they don’t know of such things?
Can I count you in as a member of my team? The Obama Yo Mama Jergens Team? You will be the team leader and have much power over many peeple. We shall call this new campaign the Jergens Orgasms & Festival of Friendship. Can we shake on this? Friend?
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RE: Your update.
The problem, as I see it, is that you have designated yourself as the supreme lie detector. Every instance where you say he lied you link to a post that YOU wrote saying he lied. Maybe this has never occurred to you but just because YOU said he lied does not make it so.
As demonstrated by those above, you have lied yourself, based upon your standard, and since we know you have lied in the past (by using the same hyperbole) then you must also be a liar.
Why don’t you find a reputable source to prove the guy lied. Once again, just because you said it does not make it so.
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meaty, why won’t you answer my question?
I want to know who obama meant when he made the statement about air strikes on villages.
When he said ”...we’re not just air raiding villages…” who is the “we” in that sentence? Maybe it isn’t the U.S. military…..maybe it is the members of Obama’s church huh? Or maybe his family is the one doing the air raiding?
Oh wait….I know….it must that obama is talking about the…..hawaiians?
I don’t know…..so who is the “we” in that statement?
Actually don’t answer. Anyone reading this thread already knows I have you nailed to the wall with the fact.
You got bested by a shitmonkey…...hAHA
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whoa oh the coward answers…...or tries to….funny how he can’t understand what obama meant but knows what teh rest of us mean aint it folks?
Meaty, you are a dumbass, a coward and a liar.
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(rolling my eyes) MB is a pathetic loser.
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What is so funny about this is that in his update he sets up yet ANOTHER FRIGGIN STRAWMAN. Maybe meaty should set up a scarecrow factory.
Meaty’s position is that because he believes that Hoft has lied before, that OBVIOUSLY NOW Hoft MUST be lying again, not just paraphrasing. Nice logic.
Meaty says Hoft lies. Hoft paraphrases Obama for use in a title. Meaty claims the Hoft lies.. because Hoft has done it before. Geez. Usually Meaty has some help from other ultra-liberal moonbats.. but I think even they smell a stinker of a losing argument like meaty’s….
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kemibe? Can you give your boy a hand here?
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Way to go meaty. I guess you can always hang your hat on those past lies.. especially since there is no evidence of a current one…
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and still you refuse to answer the question meaty.
Who did obama mean when he said what he said about air raids?
If you say you don’t know then I can say that the answer is indeed that he meant the U.S. military and you can’t deny that fact.
Dude you have been so spanked. I think I will pass thsi thread around all my groups so they can come have a laugh at the utter cowardice you have shown here, liar.Liar, liar pants full of shit
You’re not only an idiot but a big fat dick
Your mom is fat, your dad a boozie
Your skanky sister a syphilitic floozie
You live in a basement neath an old trailer house
your pathetic member as small as a mouse
You’re a coward, an ass and a drink mt dew
An ode from your friend that says you fling poo
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no you answer the question you lying coward…..
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Meaty. Let me clarify my statement for you….
You said
“Incorrect. Hoft’s past lies are facts, not a belief.”
I replied.. even giving in to your statement that Hoft had lied in the past.
“Way to go meaty. I guess you can always hang your hat on those past lies.. especially since there is no evidence of a current one…”
I simply told you that you still couldn’t defend your stance that in this instance that Hoft lied. Using the argument that “he lied before, therefore this time he lies” is not a very logical statement and it makes you look denser than a black hole. I’d like to think that this entire post and comments section is not proof that you indeed are not very bright. Perhaps you are a sadist and you enjoy getting your ass handed to you in shreds. Or perhaps you enjoy the debate, even if you get your ass handed to you in shreds.. maybe both…
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What I like is how he will go around demanding an answer from people and then when the tactic is played on him he steadfastly ignores it.
We handed your ass to you meaty.
A LOT!!!
And aside from proving you are a liar you prove you are a hypocritical coward.’
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Did I say sadist.. I meant masochist…
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Cognitive dissonance.
You say that you don’t make an argument that “because of Hoft lied before, there fore this time he lies.”
You then just repeat your crappy argument that it was not a word for word quote when it was a paraphrase for a title, which has been shown to be a weak stance that is easily debunked.
AND THEN. Oh, this is just PRICELESS. You go and say that the PARAPHRASE ‘excuse fails because Hoft routinely lies’ and that it ‘is irrational to believe that Hoft would suddenly stop lying and start meekly paraphrasing’, thereby propping your horribly weak and pathetic argument up with the VERY STRAWMAN YOU CLAIM NOT TO HAVE CREATED!!
OMG! Just admit it. You don’t like Hoft. And, no pun intended, but you are grasping at straws here to justify and rationalize your accusation that Hoft lied. I won’t even gloat that you are wrong if you just admit that, atleast in this instance, you went overboard in your jihad, and that you feel that if you admit you are wrong in this instance, you can never be trusted or taken seriously again. My friend, by continually repeating a position that has been shown to be weak and untenable, using logic and rationalizations that don’t stand up to any reasonable scrutiny, you are losing what credibility you have left. Instead you are becoming a moonbat shit crazy spittle spewing liberal.. the kind that only attract similar kinds to read his blog. Perhaps you should set up shop at Kos. THey’d welcome this kind of crap over there. And no one would challenge you in that little echo chamber….
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Oh and by the way. You are a liar. Using Meaty logic that is. After all, your “update” on this post is dated “08/06/07”, when the post is dated August 15th, 2007. Meaty logic… I think I just coined a new term…
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Meaty,
Just keep on calling Hoft a liar for his paraphrasing of Obama’s statement. I won’t argue with you any more on it and we’ll just have to agree to disagree. Anyone that stops by here can read the points and counterpoints and make their decision. See ya!
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Agreeing to disagree has nothing to do with characterizing one’s opponent as a “crazed, spittle spewing bat$h!t crazy moonbat”.
That characterization is used regardless of the debate because it fits so well.
But, one could ask why agreeing to disagree requires people to be called pig turds and cowards.
Meaty, even though you fixed the lie you were caught in (the lied about date) that does not negate the fact that, using meaty logic, you are a liar.
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Someone will explain to me why meaty can’t answer a simple question regarding whom obama was referring to when he made the statements about air raids.
Meaty, you are a hypocritical lying coward.
Anyone of any intelligence that reads this thread will realize what an ass you have made of your self on it, and what little credibility you may have believed yourself to hold is now gone.
So why won’t you answer the question?
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I don’t know that Duncan characterized you as such. He said that because of your acts you were becoming that. Characterizing and becoming are two different things.
Did you lie about that characterization part, Meaty???
Are you lying AGAIN???
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