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	<title>Comments on: Jim Hoft: Lying Asshat</title>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11911</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 09:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The site is definitely due for a design overhaul, Bill. Better comment handling is high on the priority list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The site is definitely due for a design overhaul, Bill. Better comment handling is high on the priority list.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill from Dover</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11900</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill from Dover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 03:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, the pentagon has conducted seven investigations into the Pat Tillman fiasco and there are still questions about what the hell happened. But then again, would one expect less from the same organization that gave us &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Jessica+Lynch&#38;sourceid=navclient-ff&#38;ie=UTF-8&#38;rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS176US231" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jessica Lynch?&lt;/a&gt;

Yo Meat, can you get a preview button here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, the pentagon has conducted seven investigations into the Pat Tillman fiasco and there are still questions about what the hell happened. But then again, would one expect less from the same organization that gave us <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Jessica+Lynch&#038;sourceid=navclient-ff&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS176US231" >Jessica Lynch?</a></p>
<p>Yo Meat, can you get a preview button here?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill from Dover</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11898</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill from Dover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 03:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! Let's play a game. We'll all search for the phrase &lt;em&gt;insur&lt;/em&gt; and see what we come up with. Here's what I found:
&lt;em&gt;
By supporting the insurgency people like you contribute to the death of innocents. You are a liar and much worse.

Why do you support the insurgency meaty?
&lt;/em&gt;

Pretty neat huh? Accuse someone of something with absolutely nothing, zilch to back it up and then continually ask them why they support it.

A fuckin' 3rd grader can come up with better logic than this. I know it's a tough job, Mr. Meat, but hang in there. Somebody had to occupy the low-hanging fruit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! Let&#8217;s play a game. We&#8217;ll all search for the phrase <em>insur</em> and see what we come up with. Here&#8217;s what I found:<br />
<em><br />
By supporting the insurgency people like you contribute to the death of innocents. You are a liar and much worse.</em></p>
<p>Why do you support the insurgency meaty?
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<p>Pretty neat huh? Accuse someone of something with absolutely nothing, zilch to back it up and then continually ask them why they support it.</p>
<p>A fuckin&#8217; 3rd grader can come up with better logic than this. I know it&#8217;s a tough job, Mr. Meat, but hang in there. Somebody had to occupy the low-hanging fruit.</p>
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		<title>By: kemibe</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11895</link>
		<dc:creator>kemibe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 02:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not surprising that when bloodthirsty ideologues and Fuddbloggers are asked to back up claims with evidence, they don't even try. What's at least a little surprising is that they don't simply slink away after a comment or two. They, in effect, respond to meatbrain's predictiions that they will launch more irrelevant, angry responses by launching more irrelevant, angry responses. They're hapless wind-up toys.

For an example of an unconditional warmonger who almost makes Jim look disinterested, see &lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/bushwells/2007/08/lets_say_your_uncle_wants_to_k.php" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow"&gt;this moron&lt;/a&gt;. The most striking thing all pro-war nuts share at this point is the belief that any questioning of how this grossly failed war has been conducted, period, amounts to rooting for the enemy. That's it. They have no fucking concept of a middle ground, which helps explain why most of them are extremist in other ways (religion, gun ownership, abortion, etc.). 

A fairly ambitious and learned 11-year-old can see that "If you're not totally on board with this plan (which in the case of Iraq is a dishonest and failed one), then you want the other side to win" is childish and inane. But so are wingnuts like the one you find under whatever rocks and shithunks you keep overturning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not surprising that when bloodthirsty ideologues and Fuddbloggers are asked to back up claims with evidence, they don&#8217;t even try. What&#8217;s at least a little surprising is that they don&#8217;t simply slink away after a comment or two. They, in effect, respond to meatbrain&#8217;s predictiions that they will launch more irrelevant, angry responses by launching more irrelevant, angry responses. They&#8217;re hapless wind-up toys.</p>
<p>For an example of an unconditional warmonger who almost makes Jim look disinterested, see <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/bushwells/2007/08/lets_say_your_uncle_wants_to_k.php" rel="nofollow" >this moron</a>. The most striking thing all pro-war nuts share at this point is the belief that any questioning of how this grossly failed war has been conducted, period, amounts to rooting for the enemy. That&#8217;s it. They have no fucking concept of a middle ground, which helps explain why most of them are extremist in other ways (religion, gun ownership, abortion, etc.). </p>
<p>A fairly ambitious and learned 11-year-old can see that &#8220;If you&#8217;re not totally on board with this plan (which in the case of Iraq is a dishonest and failed one), then you want the other side to win&#8221; is childish and inane. But so are wingnuts like the one you find under whatever rocks and shithunks you keep overturning.</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11890</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bq. I have conducted an honest discussion. 

False. The use of the loaded question, and intellectually dishonest tactic, is further evidence that shitmonkey cannot conduct an honest discussion.

bq. I understand using a nuclear threat on a valuable target. 

False. Shitmonkey understands nothing of the repercussions of the use of such a threat. It is afraid to even discuss those repercussions.

bq. You have proven that you don’t understand the word deterrent...

False. Shitmonkey is afraid to discuss the alleged "deterrent", and seeks to derail the discussion by making an ad hominem attack.

bq. ...and still refuse to explain why you support the insurgency.

"Mu":http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/M/mu.html.</description>
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<p>I have conducted an honest discussion. </p>
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<p>False. The use of the loaded question, and intellectually dishonest tactic, is further evidence that shitmonkey cannot conduct an honest discussion.</p>
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<p>I understand using a nuclear threat on a valuable target. </p>
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<p>False. Shitmonkey understands nothing of the repercussions of the use of such a threat. It is afraid to even discuss those repercussions.</p>
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<p>You have proven that you don’t understand the word deterrent&#8230;</p>
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<p>False. Shitmonkey is afraid to discuss the alleged &#8220;deterrent&#8221;, and seeks to derail the discussion by making an ad hominem attack.</p>
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<p>...and still refuse to explain why you support the insurgency.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/M/mu.html">Mu</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: kender</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11887</link>
		<dc:creator>kender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src='/images/kendermonkey100x100.jpg' width='100' height='100' class='floatleft'/&gt; I have conducted an honest discussion.  I understand using a nuclear threat on a valuable target.  You have proven that you don't understand the word deterrent and still refuse to explain why you support the insurgency.

No matter how long you avoid answering the question there it remains, unanswered and mocking your cowardice in honestly answering it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src='/images/kendermonkey100x100.jpg' width='100' height='100' class='floatleft'/> I have conducted an honest discussion.  I understand using a nuclear threat on a valuable target.  You have proven that you don&#8217;t understand the word deterrent and still refuse to explain why you support the insurgency.</p>
<p>No matter how long you avoid answering the question there it remains, unanswered and mocking your cowardice in honestly answering it.</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11882</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is, of course, a "loaded question":http://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html, designed to smear me as a supporter of the insurgency rather than to advance any real argument.  Shitmonkey is unable conduct an honest discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is, of course, a <a href="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html">loaded question</a>, designed to smear me as a supporter of the insurgency rather than to advance any real argument.  Shitmonkey is unable conduct an honest discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: kender</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11879</link>
		<dc:creator>kender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src='/images/kendermonkey100x100.jpg' width='100' height='100' class='floatleft'/&gt; and still you refuse to answer the question.....why do you support the insurgency?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src='/images/kendermonkey100x100.jpg' width='100' height='100' class='floatleft'/> and still you refuse to answer the question&#8230;..why do you support the insurgency?</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11870</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notice the very predictable pattern followed by shitmonkey and Terry Gain. Both are unable to support their claims with any evidence, and both therefore turn to direct ad hominem attacks.

bq. Answer the question meathead. Why do you support the insurgency?

This is, of course, a "loaded question":http://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html, designed to smear me as a supporter of the insurgency rather than to advance any real argument. Gain has not yet learned to ask honest questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice the very predictable pattern followed by shitmonkey and Terry Gain. Both are unable to support their claims with any evidence, and both therefore turn to direct ad hominem attacks.</p>
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<p>Answer the question meathead. Why do you support the insurgency?</p>
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<p>This is, of course, a <a href="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html">loaded question</a>, designed to smear me as a supporter of the insurgency rather than to advance any real argument. Gain has not yet learned to ask honest questions.</p>
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		<title>By: kender</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11850</link>
		<dc:creator>kender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src='/images/kendermonkey100x100.jpg' width='100' height='100' class='floatleft'/&gt; meaty makes comments to feel better about himself, yet is utterly unable to actually make that occur.

meaty makes comments to try to bolster his bs arguments, yet is utterly unable to actually make that occur.

meaty makes comments.....and we laugh......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src='/images/kendermonkey100x100.jpg' width='100' height='100' class='floatleft'/> meaty makes comments to feel better about himself, yet is utterly unable to actually make that occur.</p>
<p>meaty makes comments to try to bolster his bs arguments, yet is utterly unable to actually make that occur.</p>
<p>meaty makes comments&#8230;..and we laugh&#8230;...</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Gain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11848</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Gain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meathead

I would suggest that if you are going to pretend you are something other than what you are that you eliminate your blogroll and archives. Idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meathead</p>
<p>I would suggest that if you are going to pretend you are something other than what you are that you eliminate your blogroll and archives. Idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11846</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gain claims that "The BBC are the liars.". He has presented not one shred of evidence to support this claim.

Gain claims that I am "supporting the insurgency". He has presented not one shred of evidence to support this claim.

Gain claims that I am a liar. He has presented not one shred of evidence to support this claim.

Gain claims that "the BBC is cheering for the other side". He has presented not one shred of evidence to support this claim.

Gain claims that Hoft has "[proven] who the liars are.". He has presented not one shred of evidence to support this claim.

Gain is very good at making claims. He is utterly unable to supply factual evidence for any of his claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gain claims that &#8220;The BBC are the liars.&#8221;. He has presented not one shred of evidence to support this claim.</p>
<p>Gain claims that I am &#8220;supporting the insurgency&#8221;. He has presented not one shred of evidence to support this claim.</p>
<p>Gain claims that I am a liar. He has presented not one shred of evidence to support this claim.</p>
<p>Gain claims that &#8220;the BBC is cheering for the other side&#8221;. He has presented not one shred of evidence to support this claim.</p>
<p>Gain claims that Hoft has &#8221;[proven] who the liars are.&#8221;. He has presented not one shred of evidence to support this claim.</p>
<p>Gain is very good at making claims. He is utterly unable to supply factual evidence for any of his claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Gain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11845</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Gain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answer the question meathead. Why do you support the insurgency?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answer the question meathead. Why do you support the insurgency?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Gain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11844</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Gain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kender 

I realize this guy's a complete meathead, however every once in a while I like to  go into the gutter and remind these rats that they're  fooling no one with their adolescent word games. This guy pretends that a leftard infested network which is so pathetic it apologized to the Iranian hostage takers for referring to them as hostage takers (sic) isn't part of the problem.

Hoft has an update which proves who the liars are. As usual they are on the sinister side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kender </p>
<p>I realize this guy&#8217;s a complete meathead, however every once in a while I like to  go into the gutter and remind these rats that they&#8217;re  fooling no one with their adolescent word games. This guy pretends that a leftard infested network which is so pathetic it apologized to the Iranian hostage takers for referring to them as hostage takers (sic) isn&#8217;t part of the problem.</p>
<p>Hoft has an update which proves who the liars are. As usual they are on the sinister side.</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://thinkingmeat.net/2007/08/08/jim-hoft-lying-asshat/#comment-11836</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bq. So meaty, you are saying that Iran is not supplying weapons to iraqi insurgents?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why do you support the insurgency meaty?

The shitmonkey is unable to conduct an honest, rational discussion, so it falls back to the most transparent of intellectually dishonest tactics, the "loaded question":http://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html.</description>
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<p>So meaty, you are saying that Iran is not supplying weapons to iraqi insurgents?</p>
<p>Why do you support the insurgency meaty?</p>
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<p>The shitmonkey is unable to conduct an honest, rational discussion, so it falls back to the most transparent of intellectually dishonest tactics, the <a href="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html">loaded question</a>.</p>
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