Raven: Another deeply unhinged deathmonger

maybe instead of not liking murtha for what he has said she doesn’t like him for what he has done.

Thanks for the book.

Yep thats me Meatballess.

It’s a little different when a member of Congress has the power and plan and support of more than a few co horts, to take your idea of free speech and turn it against the troops (whom I know you have little respect for -most balless wonders such as yourself are afraid of the US military..) When people like you and me and Kender and Cao and Kat and Big Dog and Michael and Ogre speak (via blogging) we’re simply stating our thoughts and yes..feelings. Unlike members of Congress, our words have little effect.

Murtha isn’t speaking like we do. He’s using his corrupt powers to undermine our country. So yea…I hope he’s a victim of the next terror attack that he can thank himself for bringing to our soils.

Oh how is the Mountain Dew these days??? And I hear you made a commercial for Jergans hand lotion?? Cool. OH!! And I want a copy of your new book as well…signed but not drooled on please.

Murtha isn’t speaking like we do. He’s using his corrupt powers to undermine our country.

Cite specifics. Exactly what has Murtha done that “undermine(s) our country”?

He bit me.

for starters lets talk about ABSCAM…..

Then lets talk abnout murtha bypassing due process by stating for a fact (before charges even) that soldiers were “killed in cold blood.”

Lets talk about a former Marine that advocates surrender of our forces. Anyone that advocates a cut and run attitude is a coward and doesn’t support the troops.

So you support cut and run scrotumsucker?

Murtha has been involved in corruption which undermines this country no matter what member of Congress is involved. His defamation of US Marines and prejudicial statements have undermined our efforts.

You and all the other leftards seem to think that by throwing around racism allegations it will make your arguments stronger. These comments about terrifying brown people hold no water. We are not errified of them and we don’t care what color they are. Most of them happen to be brown but there are a whole lot of black ones and some white ones recruited from this country and from the UK.

Color has nothing to do with it, ideology does. So let us try to get that straight and stick to the point.

BTW, I heard you were working on another book. Can I sign up now to get it early? I also heard your second interview, very nicely done. Sorry to hear about your finger though.

FWIW, I believe that this country would have been better served had one of the planes hit the Capitol. Then they would take the threats seriously. It is tough for them to do because they are whisked away to a safe bomb shelter when there is a threat because they are so damned important. If they had been hit then they would have a better understanding.

Ma, Mountain Dew and Hot Pockets.

Raven is, as expected, entirely unable to back up her claim with facts. No surprise there.

Poo-flinger Kender makes several allusions, but is unable to explain how anything it mentioned ‘undermine(s) our country”. No surprise there either.

Murtha has been involved in corruption which undermines this country no matter what member of Congress is involved.

Cite the corruption case in which Murtha was convicted, please.

FWIW, I believe that this country would have been better served had one of the planes hit the Capitol.

Another moral cretin reveals itself.

SO Meaty how does the Jergens work for yah??

actually I think it is you that flings poo meaty (shouldn’t play with your food BTW)....I mean the sign does say that I say you fling poo right?

yea thats why he needs a bib Kender.

John Murtha (D-PA) was one of the Congressmen videotaped in an encounter with undercover FBI operatives.[6] Although never indicted or prosecuted, he was named an “unindicted co-conspirator” in the scandal. As such, he testified against Frank Thompson (D-NJ) and John Murphy (D-NY), the two Congressmen mentioned as participants in the deal at the same meeting. A short clip from the videotape shows Murtha stating “I’m not interested… at this point” in direct response to an offer of $50,000 in cash. [7]

While this statement has been a reference point for Murtha and others who proclaim his innocence, detractors point to the complete video, which offers a more ambiguous picture.[8] At issue are the indeterminacy of Murtha’s intentions along with the fact that he did not report the attempted bribe following the meeting, a violation of House Ethics Rules. Murtha was also taped saying, “You know, we do business for a while, maybe I’ll be interested…” – causing many to question what role he may have played had the operation not been ended early due to media exposure.

In November 1980, the Justice Department announced that Murtha would not face prosecution for his part in the scandal. The U.S. Attorneys Office reasoned that Murtha’s intent was to obtain investment in his district. Full length viewing of the tape shows Murtha citing prospective investment opportunities that could return “500 or 1000” miners to work. In July 1981, the House Ethics Committee also chose not to file charges against Congressman Murtha, following a mostly party line vote. The resignation later that day of Republican E. Barrett Prettyman, Jr., the panel’s special counsel, has been interpreted as an act of protest.[9]

Mr. Murtha remains prominent in Congress, and has been re-elected by his constituency 13 times over a course of 26 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abscam————————————————————————————————————-
Murtha wasn’t convicted…but he was intimately involved and he became a traitor to others.

He also has been under fire for House Ethics Rules violations:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3187575&page=1

This is only the latest Meatballess. He’s no hero. He will deserve what he gets.

So let’s review the eliminationist argument that Raven is trying to put forth here:

John Murtha was not indicted for corruption, was not tried for corruption, and was not convicted of corruption… but he still deserves to die for being corrupt.

Riiiiiiight…

are you saying murtha is not corrupt, my little poo flinger?

I reviewed the facts, imbecile: John Murtha was not indicted for corruption, was not tried for corruption, and was not convicted of corruption… yet, in Raven’s morally barren worldview, he still deserves to die for being corrupt.

It will be interesting to see if Raven can explain just why she takes this view, given what the facts of the matter actually are.

That meatbrain’s interlocutors cannot rise above an infantile style of communication is no surprise. What is surreal is their ability to do this—to make jerk-off jokes and less-than-clever plays on the moniker “meatbrain” while shamelessly dodging his questions—with unrestrained pride.

Raven makes the blanket statement “I HATE wealthy people,” yet also professes a distaste for whiners and complainers. Now there’s someone whose brain can be trusted. Where do you find these assholes?

You can’t throw a rock on the Internet without hitting one, my friend.

an un-indicted co-conspirator is a conspirator nonetheless…..

an un-indicted co-conspirator is a conspirator nonetheless…..

Really? Cite the legal basis for that claim, shitmonkey.

meaty, it is simple logic. If you are an un-indicted co-conspirator (and called such by the prosecution) then a co-conspirator you are.

Why, my dear poo-flinging keyboard banger, do you have such a hard time grasping such simple things that are in black and white? Do you honestly have problems comprehending what you are reading?

What part of “un-indicted co-conspirator” suddenly means “not a conspirator?”

Really dude….....I think you need to go to Sylvan Learning Center or some remedial class on reading for comprehension. I will take up a collection to get you the Big Boys Big Book of Adult Words (also called a dictionary) and you can sit down with someone and have them explain what some of them mean…..like the big one I keep tossing at you, “COMPREHENSION.”

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly.
I’m crying.

Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come.
Corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody tuesday.
Man, you been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g’joob.

Mister city policeman sitting
Pretty little policemen in a row.
See how they fly like lucy in the sky, see how they run.
I’m crying, i’m crying.
I’m crying, i’m crying.

Yellow matter custard, dripping from a dead dog’s eye.
Crabalocker fishwife, pornographic priestess,
Boy, you been a naughty girl you let your knickers down.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g’joob.

Sitting in an english garden waiting for the sun.
If the sun don’t come, you get a tan
From standing in the english rain.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g’joob g’goo goo g’joob.

Expert textpert choking smokers,
Don’t you thing the joker laughs at you?
See how they smile like pigs in a sty,
See how they snied.
I’m crying.

Semolina pilchard, climbing up the eiffel tower.
Elementary penguin singing hari krishna.
Man, you should have seen them kicking edgar allan poe.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g’joob g’goo goo g’joob.
Goo goo g’joob g’goo goo g’joob g’goo.

meaty, it is simple logic.

Translation: shitmonkey can’t cite the actual legal definitions of either “co-conspirator” or “un-indicted co-conspirator”. As usual, it pulls something out of its ass and flings it, not caring (nor knowing how) to do the necessary research to back up its claims.

Raven is, as expected, utterly unable to explain why a man who was not indicted for corruption, nor tried for corruption, nor convicted of corruption, still deserves to die for being corrupt.

There is no moral or rational basis for Raven’s insistence that Murtha must die. Her hysterical insistence that death is warranted in this case is the result of only one thing: her blind hatred of anyone who dares disagree with her about the war in Iraq. This hatred renders Raven incapable of rational debate.

Lawmakers, aides say Murtha Iraq-withdrawal proposal dead
By Mike Soraghan
August 01, 2007

A proposal by Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) for the House to vote on withdrawal from Iraq without a timetable has been nixed, several lawmakers and aides said.

The opposition of the Progressive Caucus also apparently doomed a proposal by Reps. Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii) and John Tanner (D-Tenn.) demanding a redeployment plan from President Bush. The measure will not get a vote this week.

Progressive Caucus lawmakers met Tuesday morning and agreed they would not support any Iraq measure that does not include a firm timetable for withdrawal.

“We don’t want to see any retreat,” a Progressive Caucus member, Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), said.

That kicks the withdrawal debate ahead to September, when Gen. David Petraeus is to issue a report on the success of
President Bush’s “surge” plan. Many Republican lawmakers have said they will re-evaluate their support of Bush’s strategy based on the report.

But House leaders are still emphasizing a vote this week on giving troops more time at home between deployments. The legislation by Abercrombie and Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-Calif.) mirrors an unsuccessful bill by Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) that would require soldiers to spend as much time at home as they do in the combat zone.

“We wanted to have the strongest possible vote as everyone left town for August,” a Democratic aide said.

Progressive Caucus leader Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) said she wants to “start a conversation” about her proposal to stop the training of Iraqi security forces. Progressives have become concerned that the U.S. military is inadvertently training insurgents.

Waters’s discussion would come during debate on the Defense Appropriations bill, which is scheduled to come up Thursday. The Rules Committee decided Tuesday to allow open debate.

Details of the demise of Murtha’s amendment are still murky, but there are indications that House leadership had a hand in it. As chairman of the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, Murtha had announced his plans to seek an amendment on the floor demanding that withdrawal of troops begin in 60 days, but not put a “date certain” for the withdrawal to be completed.

Republican opponents of withdrawal amendments often say they won’t support an “artificial timetable” for withdrawal. Murtha said his language was intended to remove that reasoning and see if Republicans still supported the administration. He also questioned whether troops can be withdrawn.

Murtha does not appear to have consulted with House progressives or House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). Asked if he’d talked with the Speaker at the time his committee sent the defense spending bill to the floor last week, Murtha replied, “She’s always supported me before.”

But Waters, Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.), and Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), the trio that leads the Out of Iraq caucus all panned the bill the same day, dismissing it as backsliding.

Democratic aides said Murtha appeared to have gotten ahead of himself, proposing major legislation without checking with leadership or counting votes.

Waters rejected that assessment, saying the veteran lawmaker had earned the right to offer what he saw fit on defense matters.

“Members who’ve been around here a long time do what they think is best,” Waters said. “We don’t think we’re so powerful that people have to come talk to us,” she added, referring to Lee, Woolsey and herself.

Murtha spokesman Matt Mazonkey said, “Mr. Murtha remains committed to finding a reasonable way to redeploy as soon as practical from Iraq.”

Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.), when asked about the amendment Monday night, said, “It’s in leadership’s hands.”

The amendment was discussed during Monday night’s leadership meeting, though no final decision was made. When votes concluded Monday night, Murtha left the floor in an angry mood. The often-talkative cardinal brushed off a reporter, saying, “I don’t want to answer any questions.”

Murtha met with Lee, Waters and Woolsey Tuesday morning. Afterward, Waters and Woolsey said the Murtha amendment would not come up this week. That was later confirmed by Democratic aides, who added that Abercrombie-Tanner also had been nixed.

Democrats expressed concern that the measures, especially Abercrombie-Tanner, would give Republicans “cover” to say they’d voted for a change in course in Iraq without taking concrete steps to remove troops.

Abercrombie said that argument doesn’t hold water. He said Democratic leaders should have scheduled a vote on his bill “if the Democratic Party wants to go home and say they did something on Iraq. The only ‘cover’ we care about is the cover that the troops need in Ramadi and Fallujah.”

dude….what needs explaining? Do you not understand that the term “un-indicted co-conspirator” means one is a conspirator that was not indicted?

Really….what part of that don’t you get?

What needs an explanation?

if you don’t understand the phrase “un-indicted co-conspirator” how the hell do you expect to understand legalese?

Maybe I should put it in language you understand….Durrr, guurr dhuud uuh…...but then since I can’t write it in crayon for you you probably wont read it.

I read the news today oh boy
About a lucky man who made the grade
And though the news was rather sad
Well I just had to laugh
I saw the photograph
He blew his mind out in a car
He didn’t notice that the lights had changed
A crowd of people stood and stared
They’d seen his face before
Nobody was really sure
If he was from the House of Lords.

I saw a film today oh boy
The English Army had just won the war
A crowd of people turned away
but I just had to look
Having read the book
I’d love to turn you on

Woke up, fell out of bed,
Dragged a comb across my head
Found my way downstairs and drank a cup,
And looking up I noticed I was late.
Found my coat and grabbed my hat
Made the bus in seconds flat
Found my way upstairs and had a smoke,
and Somebody spoke and I went into a dream

I read the news today oh boy
Four thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire
And though the holes were rather small
They had to count them all
Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall.
I’d love to turn you on

Kender did you know this is Meat Brain’s theme song?
Da Mama Boy.

Mother do you think they’ll drop the bomb?
Mother do you think they’ll like this song?
Mother do you think they’ll try to break my balls?
Mother should I build the wall?
Mother should I run for president?
Mother should I trust the government?
Mother will they put me in the firing line?
Mother am I really dying?

Hush now baby, baby, dont you cry.
Mother’s gonna make all your nightmares come true.
Mother’s gonna put all her fears into you.
Mother’s gonna keep you right here under her wing.
She wont let you fly, but she might let you sing.
Mama will keep baby cozy and warm.
Ooooh baby ooooh baby oooooh baby,
Of course mama’ll help to build the wall.

Mother do you think she’s good enough—to me?
Mother do you think she’s dangerous—to me?
Mother will she tear your little boy apart?
Mother will she break my heart?

Hush now baby, baby dont you cry.
Mama’s gonna check out all your girlfriends for you.
Mama wont let anyone dirty get through.
Mama’s gonna wait up until you get in.
Mama will always find out where you’ve been.
Mama’s gonna keep baby healthy and clean.
Ooooh baby oooh baby oooh baby,
You’ll always be baby to me.

Mother, did it need to be so high?

Raven performs a straight copy-and-paste from an article utterly unrelated to her insistence that Murtha must die. This, along with her spamming of song lyrics, serves as further evidence that her hatred has rendered her incapable of rational discussion.

shitmonkey still does not know how to find facts that support its claims — and, in fact, it has revealed that it does not even understand why its claims require factual support. Apparently, we are supposed to take the word of a lying racist as Revealed Truth.

ok, because YOU can’t understand the meaning of unindicted co-conspirator I must find the meaning for you?

Yeah, right.

As for the racist remark that shit wont stand. I have not once made a racist remark. I am bigoted yes….bigoted as I know our culture, with its warts, to be superior to other, less free cultures on this rock, but racist? No.

Racism, (since you seem to be unable to comprehend english and don’t know how to research) is the belief that ones race has superior attributes to another race. I don’t believe that for a minute.

And linking to an article you wrote, about something someone else did that wasn’t connected to me is simply inane AND insane.

But then you do seem to be stupid and crazy, so it fits.

So meathead, when did you realize you were gay?

A. Definition of “Unindicted Co-Conspirator”

[II.A.1] The term “unindicted co-conspirator” refers to any person who allegedly “agreed with others to violate the law but who is not being charged with an offense and who, consequently, will not be tried or sentenced for his criminal conduct.”(24) The law permits admission of unindicted co-conspirators’ statements and acts performed during and in furtherance of the conspiracy as evidence in determining the guilt or innocence of the indicted conspirators.(25) Prosecutors often have enough evidence to indict these individuals, but instead name them as unindicted co-conspirators for a variety of strategic reasons.(26)

http://www.fclr.org/articles/2004fedctslrev1(noframes).htm

snap

crackle

ok, because YOU can’t understand the meaning of unindicted co-conspirator I must find the meaning for you?

Wrong. Because shitmonkey makes a claim about conspirators, it is required to show that its claim is backed by fact. It is incapable of doing this, and in fact does not understand that claims must be supported by facts. It believes that whatever it says automatically becomes Truth.

I have not once made a racist remark.

False. It has used the term "spick", a racist epithet.

I don’t believe that for a minute.

False. It has used the term "spick", a racist epithet.

And linking to an article you wrote, about something someone else did that wasn’t connected to me is simply inane AND insane.

False. As clearly documented, shitmonkey used the term "spick", a racist epithet, in the discussion that followed the StopTheACLU article.

pop

yes…teh word you THINK I was saying was “spic”...what I mistyped was “speck”, and anyone with an ounce of reading comprehension and intelligence can see that.

Who ever heard of a “cowardly spick of gelatinous slime?”

But a “cowardly SPECK of gelatinous slime” is something different altogether.

Damn dude…....you are resorting to typos to make your point?

I am laughing so hard I almost shot coffee out of my nose…...

When we grew up and went to school
There were certain teachers who would
Hurt the children in any way they could

“OOF!” [someone being hit]

By pouring their derision
Upon anything we did
And exposing every weakness
However carefully hidden by the kids
But in the town, it was well known
When they got home at night, their fat and
Psychopathic wives would thrash them
Within inches of their lives.

So Meat Head what yah got to say about this Definition of “Unindicted Co-Conspirator”???

Come on. Let’s hear your thoughts on this. Show us your meat you claim to have in that scull of yers.

Raven is apparently capable of looking up legal definitions — a task that shitmonkey still does not know how to accomplish.

Raven is, however, still utterly unable to explain why a man who was not indicted for corruption, nor tried for corruption, nor convicted of corruption, nonetheless deserves to die for being corrupt.

There is no moral or rational basis for Raven’s insistence that Murtha must die. Her hysterical insistence that death is warranted in this case is the result of only one thing: her blind hatred of anyone who dares disagree with her about the war in Iraq. This hatred renders Raven incapable of rational debate, so she resorts to spamming this comment thread with song lyrics instead.

Ahh Meaty just sharing my fav songs with yah. Get your meat out of your panties and put them hands and lotion to work.

Murtha is laying the groundwork for terrorists to further their agenda, and they will come to America next. He should be the first victim of their attacks since he so eagerly wants them to win their battles. It’s an opinion and I stand by it. He should be blown up by a suicide bomber. I shouldn’t be a victim because of his pandering and cowardly acts of treason.

So now the point becomes that he is still a conspirator…...I don’t knwo why you needed a defintion of something that is very self explanatory, but then you probably wonder why your shirt is wet all the time too.

Let em ask you meaty, did you take speech therapy when you were younger? Because you seem, in your interviews, to have a decent grasp of the language, even tho it does sound at times as if you are speaking with a dick in your mouth.

How long ago did you realize you were gay?

Wow. These wingnuts are just damn crazy. I’d have to say this Raven person really has drunk the kool-aid. Are you sure you’re not a druggie, Raven? I mean, you want a sitting Congressman killed? That sounds like something Cheney might say (and not be punished for because this administration is above the law).

You people do know that BusHitler is going to be emporer, right? You’ve read the excutive orders that were put in place to ensure no elections in 2008, right? Get ready for another “terrorist” attack soon—so Bush can declare his imperial position as protector. These plans have been in motion for decades, why don’t you people open your minds! Heck, I bet you wingnuts actually believe the moon landing was real, don’t you?

Mulder here. Looking for Agent Scully. We seem to have a couple right wing fanatics here at Thinking Meat’s site.

Scully, if you’re reading this send me that info about the war. Iraq…it’s not really happening. The “war scenes” are actually US Soldiers on the Dark side of the Moon, fighting for oil Bush and Cheney found a few years ago. The Aliens are also after this moon oil. THAT is what this is all about. There is no threat of terrorism. Bush made it all up. 9-11 never happened; it was all an orchestrated non event put out by Bush’d Hollywood friends (yes he has some). All those scenes of falling towers? Hollywood special effects.

Scully? Where are you? We need to defend Thinking Meat from the evil likes of Kender and Raven.

Murtha is laying the groundwork for terrorists to further their agenda…

In Raven’s eyes, disagreement with her support for the war in Iraq is exactly the same thing “laying the groundwork for terrorists”.

I shouldn’t be a victim because of his pandering and cowardly acts of treason.

In Raven’s eyes, disagreement with her support for the war in Iraq is exactly the same thing “treason”.

Notice that Raven has suddenly dropped all talk of “corruption” from her argument. When the facts do not support her claims, she simply switches to accusing her target of other crimes — again, without a single shred of factual support.

There is no moral or rational basis for Raven’s insistence that Murtha must die. Her hysterical insistence that death is warranted in this case is the result of only one thing: her blind hatred of anyone who dares disagree with her about the war in Iraq. This hatred renders Raven incapable of rational debate, so she resorts to spamming this comment thread with song lyrics instead.

oh and meatBalless SPAM is:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=spam&db=*
spam (spām) Pronunciation Key
n. Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail.

tr.v. spammed, spam·ming, spams

1. To send unsolicited e-mail to.
2. To send (a message) indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups.

Yuu can’t even call my comments what they are (just comments w/song lyrics)...you have to use a term (SPAM) you have no idea what it’s LEGAL definition is. You’re a tool.

So now the point becomes that he is still a conspirator…

Wrong. The point is that Raven started out claiming that Murtha deserved to die for “using his corrupt powers to undermine our country”. Her corruption argument, alas, has fallen apart — Raven cannot explain why a man who was not indicted for corruption, nor tried for corruption, nor convicted of corruption, nonetheless deserves to die for being corrupt.

So Raven simply substitutes other crimes, and continues to wish death upon Murtha. The real reason for the moral vacuum in Raven’s soul is clear: she has surrendered herself to hatred. Hatred does not reason. Hatred simply hates.

I think Murtha may be one of the very few who understand how deep the illuminati conspiracy actually goes.

Monseratti;

Stuff it. Bushilter is better than Murtha ANYDAY. At least Bushitler puts America first…and not our enemies.

“hatred simply hates”

And rubber balls bounce…...the sun rises in the west and meathead still can’t read for comprehension.

What has ravens alleged hatred have to do with your lack of comprehending simple english?

And again I ask, when did you come out of the closet?

?I think Murtha may be one of the very few who understand how deep the illuminati conspiracy actually goes.?

OMG. You people are NUTS. You really are. Murtha knows nothing. He’s a lone old man who is just pushing his weight around. He doesn’t care about America or the Marine Corps …to him its all about power and money. He is the epitome of corruption in Congress.

He is the epitome of corruption in Congress.

And still we wait for Raven to explain why a man who was not indicted for corruption, nor tried for corruption, nor convicted of corruption, nonetheless deserves to die for being corrupt.

In the town where I was born,
Lived a man who sailed to sea,
And he told us of his life,
In the land of submarines,

So we sailed up to the sun,
Till we found a sea of green,
And we lived beneath the waves,
In our yellow submarine,

We all live in a yellow submarine,
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine,
We all live in a yellow submarine,
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine,

And our friends are all aboard,
Many more of them live next door,
And the band begins to play.

(Trumpets play)

We all live in a yellow submarine,
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine,
We all live in a yellow submarine,
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine,

(weird sounds)

As we live a life of ease (a life ease)
Every one of us (everyone of us) has all we need (has all we need)
Sky of blue (sky of blue) and sea of green (sea of green)
In our yellow (in our yellow) submarine (submarine. ha ha)

We all live in a yellow submarine,
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine,
We all live in a yellow submarine,
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine.(fade)

So now you’re disrespecting the Marine Corps? Is there nothing that you don’t hate, Raven? And you think that Bushitler is better than Murtha? Do the words “Skull and Crossbones” mean anything to you? Have you ever looked into those connections? These are the same people who shot Kennedy to keep their secret! With their global one-world government goals set in motion, they will soon be unstoppable. Just wait for the 2008 October surprise—it’s going to ensure that Bushitler remains in power and remains killing our young men!

Murtha is a disrespect to the Marine Corps!! I LOVE MARINES. THEY MAKE ME HORNY (except that old nOn mArInE Murtha…)

SO Bush killed JFK too??? Really now. GET A LIFE.

You’re the one saying Murtha should die. I suspect that Bushitler will order his death soon, if he doesn’t shut up. That’s what’s going to happen to all who oppose him, including meatbrain. Do you realize how many secret prisons they have set up in oil-producing countries? Hill 42? Hello? I heard word that Murtha was planning on visiting Cuba to tour the American torture cells there, but he stopped when it was revealed that Haliburton had a contract out on his life if he visited. WAKE UP!

Well, Well, Well….we do seem to have something of an issue here.

Libtards projecting their favorite meme about free speech. Except when it’s theirs onto us right-wing deathbeasts.

Libtards incapable of distinguishing the difference between rhetoric and hyperbole versus actual, articulated threats. It’s a common literary technique to engender a strong disagreement with the target (MurthaFucker) in this case and the readers.

Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, they spew again and again as they swirl faster down the toilet-bowl into irrelevancy.

Hate is Palestinians strapping dynamite belts onto teenagers and detonating themselves in Israeli pizza restaurants. Hate is forcing children to watch their parents being lowered into shredders feet first. Hate is flying airliners into office buildings full of innocent people. Hate is stoning young women to death for ‘their’ crime of being raped.

Incapable of comprehending physical acts and hyperbole condemning those that aid and abet the real hate, they play the moral equivocation game. Conservative ideology is no different in character than gassing Khurdish villagers.

When asked to debate factually, they resort to painting the other side as racist or bigots, much as 3rd graders on the playground.

MeatforMaggots can’t comprehend basic english, and returns with the racist card in lieu of an obvious argument.

But that’s OK, momma says everything will be alright.

Mommy’s alright, Daddy’s alright, they just seem a little weird.
Surrender, surrender, but don’t give yourself away, ay, aaaaaaaay.

He came out of the closet to get more pork rinds, the hot-pocket got cold and the batteries in his mega-death butt-plug went dead.

Murtha is a disrespect to the Marine Corps!!

Raven’s argument continues to mutate, as she tapdances away from its original form. And still we wait for her to explain why a man who was not indicted for corruption, nor tried for corruption, nor convicted of corruption, nonetheless deserves to die for being corrupt.

Hate is Palestinians strapping dynamite belts onto teenagers and detonating themselves in Israeli pizza restaurants. Hate is forcing children to watch their parents being lowered into shredders feet first. Hate is flying airliners into office buildings full of innocent people. Hate is stoning young women to death for ‘their’ crime of being raped.

All true. Hate is also insisting that someone should die, merely because they disagree with the hatemonger’s views on the war in Iraq.

Conservative ideology is no different in character than gassing Khurdish villagers.

Specify: Who has made that claim in this comment thread?

OMG I feel like I’m in a mental ward! Between Meatballess and his friend Monseratti- the two of them make this world of liberals really look INSANE!!

Secret torture prisons? Run by Haliburton? Oh my…I work at one on the moon. Contracts being taken out on lives? LIBERALS ARE REALLY NUTZOID.

And these comments prove it. Reminds me of the fly nest known as Kos.

And still we wait for Raven to explain why a man who was not indicted for corruption, nor tried for corruption, nor convicted of corruption, nonetheless deserves to die for being corrupt.

Amazing. Someone who writes “Maybe I should put it in language you understand….Durrr, guurr dhuud uuh…...but then since I can’t write it in crayon for you you probably wont read it” displays this as the possessive form of his own name on his blog:

Kenders’

He also thinks that various plays of meatbrain’s handle and jokes about his sexuality are sufficient to prove a point.

Meanwhile, Raven—busy posting song lyrics in lieu of even trying to make sense—and some genius whose blog readership is more likely to not recognize that the U.S. is a secular country are swinging fast and furious in an effort to get their irrelevant licks in, too.

Regardless of the issues, I have to wonder: Isn’t it obvious by now to the “conservatives” here that tactics like screaming “you homo! And gay too!!” and making fun of a name someone has chosen as a joke are not working? That by making it clear as can be not only that you have no answers to meatbrain’s questions but that he’s gotten vry deep under your collective scaly skins, you’re validating his entire purpose?

I guess one ancillary benefit to uncut raging stupidity is not having the wherewithal to be ashamed over being toyed with. Now quit breeding and voting, and America might stand a real chance.

I guess one ancillary benefit to uncut raging stupidity is not having the wherewithal to be ashamed over being toyed with.

I discussed this some time ago, in my post on self-reinforcing incompetence.

Wow. You rightwingnuts are just insane. How can you claim one thing is hatred while you’re planning hatred of your own? How can you ignore obvious threats from the Illuminati! I’m not sure, but I wouldn’t be surprised if The Illuminati are working WITH Murtha—to give you something to focus on so you won’t see or care about the Haliburton contracts full of money. While we’re talking about how much Raven hates Murtha, Bushitler and CheneyHaliburton continue to make billions off slavery.

I don’t have a single clue what the hell you are all talking about. But I did notice that at the top of this blog the colored blocks that stand out are in the order of 3…2…1…3. That adds up to 9 and if one continues on the function one will come to another 2…which, of course, if added to the nine is 11. So you see it only stands to reason that the author of this blog is behind 9/11. In fact, the words “Thinking Meat” have 12 letters total plus there are 2 words, that adds up to 14…half of 14 is seven. Which is the number of the building supposedly brought down by the machiavellian Bush administration. Coincidence? Well check this out…the word “Meat”, if each letter is assigned a number based on its place in the alphabet, adds up to 39…39 backwards is in fact 93…the year of the first attack on the World Trade Centers. Ah, but there is more. The word “Thinking”, if the letters are added in the same way, come out to 92… so we have the 9 and along with the 2 we have 11…again 9/11. I could go on. But it is already painfully obvious that the author of this blog is a conspirator, or at the very least a co-conspirator, of not one but both attacks on the World Trade Centers.
I will be contacting the FBI forthwith with the above indictments.

“Wrong, Do it again!”
“If you don’t eat yer meat, you can’t have any pudding. How can you
have any pudding if you don’t eat yer meat?”
“You! Yes, you behind the bikesheds, stand still laddy!”

Murtha lied about his purple hearts, lied about Abscam, lied about the Haditha marines, encouraged Clinton to pull out of Mogadishu, and is a walking disaster—just like the rest of the democrats.

*Iraqi’s gross domestic productin 2004 was up 14% over preward levels.

*per capita income doubled between 2003 and 2005 and was 30% higher than it was before the war.

*Iraq’s unemployment dropped to 28% from preward levels of 33%.

*US efforts added 1,400 megawatts of electrical power across Iraq, expanding the grid to reach 4.2 million citizens.

*Oil production nearly reached preward levels of 2 million barrels a day, despite sabotage to the delivery systems.

*An independent media of 170 newspapers, 72 radio stations and 29 television stations rose after the collapse of Saddam’s regime.

*Between 2003 and 2005, renovations were completed on 3,211 schools, 20 hospitals were renovated, and construction was finished on 76 water tratment plants, 30 sewer plants and 33 fire stations.

Contrary to leftists who want to celebrate soldiers when they frag their officers and encourage them to ‘conscientiously object’ or go AWOL (like the truther movie producer did)-there is palpable very real change and progress going on in Iraq since Saddam’s regime fell.

And frankly, I don’t give a shit if Raven says that Murtha should face conseequences…a lot of people in the military feel that way, like Army Lieutenant colonel Christopher Stark:

“It is indeed fitting that you are a member of the same political party as another traitor and seditionist, former Lieutenant John Kerry USN…We are at war, Representative Murtha, and your actions and conduct give aid and comfort to our enemies…You have dishonored all of those you have fought and died up to the day you stood on the floor of the House of Representatives and demanded that we withdraw immediately. Yes, Representative Murtha, you have given aid and comfort to our enemies in a time of war. You have given them hope, which they have fast been losing, due to all of the victories and sacrifice by our sons and daughters on the field of battle in Iraq and Afghanistan. You have been honored by our enemies on the front page of Al Jazeera…Be advised, my son is a Marine Officer. He has commanded men in battle through two(2) tours and he is due to return to Iraq on a third tour. If he should be harmed in any way as a result of your actions on the floor of the House this week, I will do everything within my power to see to it that you are driven from office and that you are charged and tried for treason and sedition.”

Murtha’s very visible allies are Code Pink, United For Peace and Justice and International ANSWER. I hardly think that someone allied with communists belongs in the Senate considering he took an oath to ‘defend the constitution.’ He’s in bed with people who want to do away with the constitution all together.

I don’t know who this Raven and Kender are but they are real right wing whack jobs. Anyone can see that Meatbrain is right on target with his observations. The Internet needs more like him, unafraid and willing to tell it like it is. Kender is so dumb he can not even show how an un-indicted co-conspirator is a conspirator because he talks out his rear. He is like all these other Bush toadies who follow the unelected president around like puppy dogs.

I know exactly how all these people are because the right wing has been doing things to mess up this country for a long time. Kennedy beat Nixon fair and square yet the Rethuglicans said that Chicago cheated. Then, Nixon and his henchmen threatened Lyndon Johnson (Johnson had a homosexual love affair that J Edgar Hoover knew about because he was the lover). They got Johnson to talk to Jack Ruby, who Johnson knew from his business days, and Ruby enlisted Oswald to shoot Kennedy.

Now Jackie Kennedy wanted the top up but Johnson told the president that he needed to be visible to the people so that they would reelect him in the next election. This gave Oswald a clear shot. Then, the Nixon gang got Johnson not to run so Nixon could get elected in 1968 because he felt he had won in 1960. Nixon had people secretly working on a moon landing so that when he became president (once Johnson was out of the way) people would think it was he, not the dream of Kennedy who made it happen.

The thing is, they did not actually go to the moon. Nixon had friends in the movie business and finance world who were blackmailed into making the moon landing movie (Nixon’s people were holding the families hostage at a military base in Roswell). The movie people cleverly inserted items like shadowns and wind that would not be present on the moon so that people would know it was a fake. George H W Bush worked with Nixon in order to keep GW Bush out of Vietnam, which Nixon promised.

Then, Gerald Ford paid John Dean to dupe GG Liddy and the others into pulling off Watergate. They were supposed to get caught but the police were called to another emergency so Dean told everyone that the bug did not work so they had to go back. This time they were caught and Ford told Nixon to do whatever Dean told him to hush it up and then let it “slip” that Nixon taped his meetings. This brought down Nixon so Ford could be president.

Carter won and Ford was mad so he orchestrated the Iran hostage crisis so that Carter would lose to Reagan. Year later, after he was elected, GW Bush found out that the last remaining guy who made the Moon movie was alive and working in New York at an office in the WTC. He was writing a book about it and it implicated Bush and the others in the moon movie plot and it showed how Bush worked with Nixon to stay out of Vietnam. Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks in order to kill this guy and keep the book from being published. The problem is, the CIA had info on this because the guy had spoken with them and they were compiling a big dossier on Bush so he had WTC 7 imploded along with the WTC, which were hit with Cruise missiles made to look like planes and then imploded. This act got rid of a problem and gave Bush a reason to go after Hussein (he did not care about bin Laden) because Bush’s family had secretly paid Hussein to invade Kuwait so HW could look tough by forcing him home (this is why we did not go to Baghdad in the first war). The yellowcake Hussein got was actually from some business associates of HW and that is how GW knew about it. Hussein figured that they were coming after him to shut him up because he kept records of the WMD that HW had gotten sent to Iraq.

9/11 allowed GW to kill the writer and to go after Hussein (he lulled him into a false sense of security by going into Afghanistan first). Hussein was trying to get his story out but Bush kept him confined so that he could not talk to anyone and used one of the doubles that was captured to sit in jail and make like a nice guy to guards.

The Rethuglicans are bad people and you can see how they harmed this country. I am proud that the truthers are getting this in the open and once we have evidence that Bush dropped those towers we are going to expose him.

Then Kender and Raven can shove their right wing holier than thou attitudes up their blowholes.

WTF, O?

Are we feeding the troll AT his website now? Sheesh. This guy is a one person strawman factory and debating him is like talking to a pile of hamburger meat… which doesn’t think.

Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on is such a joy, come on is such a
joy
Come on and take it easy, come on and take it easy, take it easy, take it easy
Everybody’s got something to hide, except for me and my monkey
Hah, the deeper you go, the higher you fly, the higher you fly, the deeper you
go
So come on, come on, come on is such a joy, come on is such a joy
Come on and make it easy, come on and make it easy, take it easy, take it easy
Everybody’s got something to hide, except for me and my monkey
Your inside is out, and your outside is in
Your outside is in, and you inside is out
So come on, ha, come on, ha, come on is such a joy
Come on is such a joy, come on and make it easy, come on and make it easy
Take it easy, take it easy
Everybody’s got something to hide except for me and my monkey
Come on, come on, come on, come on

And still we wait for Raven to explain why a man who was not indicted for corruption, nor tried for corruption, nor convicted of corruption, nonetheless deserves to die for being corrupt.

I don’t come here too often, mostly because I don’t like the way that the blog owner argues, he asks the same question over and over and over even after he has been given responses that would satisfy a professor of Logic in any university.

Having said that, I am appaled at the sheer affrontery of this Raven lady and Kender gentleman (I’m being generous with the terms lady and gentleman). I’ve watched tape, after tape, after tape of so many political shenannagans that I’m sick of the process. Murtha is a hero, he was decorated for his actions in Vietnam, and he should be listened to. He is a crook, but that came much later and we should cut him a little slack because of what he did do to serve our country. The fact that he was an unindicted “co-”conspirator says worlds to me. He also comes from a very poor area of the country and so some pork would be justified to help raise those people out of poverty. Calling for his killing as some have done is stupid, how would that help this country.

I don’t know why I bother with blogs anyway, those that read them are typically to lazy to go get the answers for them selves. Those that write them are no much better than paramicium in that all they seem to have done over the last decade or so is swim around and around in circles and multiply. Blogs have gone from just a few to millions. They are like grains of sand multiplying every time a new wave comes in.

Speaking of waves, the scoffers at Mr. Gore are nuts. If we don’t stop the “fever” of the earth, we will all be cooking, in fact, the sea rising 20 to 40 feet is all that may cool us off.

Meatbrain (you know, that really is a pretty stupid name, and Thinking Meat? Not very original, nor is it descriptive of anything except of someone with a pretty pathethic imagination) why don’t you start over with a real blog and some real thinking, not the claptrap you usually post here. Besides, some of the blogs you rail against are pretty funny if you ignore their bull.

Besides, some of the blogs you rail against are pretty funny if you ignore their bull.

That much I can agree with. The sight of grown humans lying over and over again, even after their lies have been exposed, is indeed hilarious — and also tragic.

LibsInLiberty,
Did you really say, “Speaking of waves, the scoffers at Mr. Gore are nuts. If we don’t stop the “fever” of the earth, we will all be cooking, in fact, the sea rising 20 to 40 feet is all that may cool us off.”?
20 to 40 feet? Wow, been drinking the Koo-Ade a tad? The IPCC doesn’t see that amount of rise…”The IPCC now projects, in its mid-range scenario for carbon dioxide emissions, that the maximum-scenario rise in global sea level in this century will be around 17 inches.” http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=21212
That is 17 whole inches! My God, hide the women and children!
Oh, and BTW, here is a little tidbit your beloved Messiah Mr. Gore forgot to propagandize, ”...the accepted global average temperature statistics used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change show that no ground-based warming has occurred since 1998. Oddly, this eight-year-long temperature stasis has occurred despite an increase over the same period of 15 parts per million (or 4 per cent) in atmospheric CO2.” http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/story/steven_foley/2007/06/18/ipcc_shows_no_ground_based_warming_since_1998

17 inches isn’t enough for you? Wake up, people! That’s just what the illuminati wants you to believe. Why can’t you people see their one world government agenda? While Raven continues to call for death to anyone she disagrees with, the bushitler/cheneyhalibrton cabal continues to advance the illuminati one world government. This global warming is just a part of it that the illuminati engineered to ensure that people won’t see them and what they’re doing. More people waste time looking at and trying to stop global warming and plotting the assassination of politicians so the illuminati and the skull and crossbones people can continue. Do you people really think area 51 was about aliens? Wake up before we’re all put in internment camps for speaking truth to power!

Camps, eh? I went to camp once. It was fun. We made hats out of oak branches. We roasted marshmallows. We frolicked in the lake. Could it be a camp like that? Could it?
“Internment”, was it? That means government paid right?
If if were, I just might like these illuminati guys. As it is I can’t afford camp.
I’m impoverished. Alas, poor me. Stuck in my Section 8 air conditioned housing watching Jerry Springer on the Hi-Def LCD.
I could use some fresh air.
Maybe I’ll grab my iPod and Link card and run to the store for some Cheese Puffs and grape soda.
It would be nice to be out in nature for awhile.
Now, it seems, I just can’t get the promise of these camps off my mind.

Monseratti, GBlagg, et al: Kindly stay on topic. This is not the comment thread in which to discuss Illuminati conspiracies or global warming.

Crack that whip
Give the past the slip
Step on a crack
Break your Momma’s back

When a problem comes along
You must whip it
Before the cream sits out too long
You must whip it
When something’s goin’ wrong
You must whip it

Now whip it
Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to detect it
It’s not too late
To whip it
Whip it good

When a good time turns around
You must whip it
You will never live it down
Unless you whip it
No one gets their way
Until they whip it

I say, whip it
Whip it good
I say, whip it
Whip it good

[Instrumental Interlude]

Crack that whip
Give the past the slip
Step on a crack
Break your Momma’s back

When a problem comes along
You must whip it
Before the cream sits out too long
You must whip it
When something’s goin’ wrong
You must whip it

Now whip it
Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to detect it
It’s not too late
To whip it
Whip it good

And still we wait for Raven to explain why a man who was not indicted for corruption, nor tried for corruption, nor convicted of corruption, nonetheless deserves to die for being corrupt.

LibsinLiberty,

You are correct about the entire Thinking Meat thing. You can answer him with a logical answer and more often than not he sticks his fingers in his ears and screams his questions louder and louder. Either that or he sets up another strawman argument when he knows he’s trapped.

And Global Warming. Not convinced that it is manmade at all. It is a political movement (and power grab) that has taken on almost a religious zeal about it. Very disturbing to say the least. The environment should be protected, but right now its the blind leading the blind as far as this topic goes.

Thinking Meat,

And John Murtha? He’s entitled to his opinions. Yes he served. And it was, by all accounts, an honorable service to his country. Yet his comments as a Representative concerning military tactics have been nothing but ridiculous. Redeploy to Okinawa? WTF? His immediate indictment of the Haditha marines as cold-blooded killers well before the evidence was all in and a trial was convened. Winter Soldier anybody? And his desire to cut and run no matter what in Iraq, well, I think many disagree with his hardheaded run to run up the white flag (just as those who argue that George Bushis hardheaded with his desire to fight “imperial wars for oil.”).

So does John Murtha deserve to die a heinous death? I think Raven might have been speaking in hyperbole (Thinking Meat.. google it). She has a strong love for the Marine Corp and our armed forces in general. She also supports the war. Representative Murtha is percieved by her (and I’d argue many others) as being a staunch enemy to both. Therefore she said that she hopes he is killed by the bombs that the terrorists will inevitably be blowing up in the U.S. if the policies that he, and a majority of the Dems, espouse. Does she actually want harm to come to him, or is she exaggerating both her great dislike for him and his policies?

I don’t expect you to understand that though. You simply are trying to play a “gotcha you evil hatemongering neocon ha ha” game and then argue ad nauseum.

Darn. There I go feeding the troll. Oh well….

You can answer him with a logical answer and more often than not he sticks his fingers in his ears and screams his questions louder and louder.

False. I ask a question repeatedly when it is obvious that the person replying has not answered it, or have chosen to give an evasive or irrelevant answer. That’s what Raven is doing here.

Either that or he sets up another strawman argument when he knows he’s trapped.

Cite examples, please.

Redeploy to Okinawa? WTF?

Is “WTF?” supposed to be an actual counterargument, or is it something your kind says when you don’t actually have a rational counterargument?

If Murtha actually made such a suggestion, is that reason enough to wish him dead?

His immediate indictment of the Haditha marines as cold-blooded killers well before the evidence was all in and a trial was convened.

Is that reason enough to wish Murtha dead?

And his desire to cut and run no matter what in Iraq…

What, specifically, has Murtha said that indicates he wants to “cut and run no matter what in Iraq”?

Is that reason enough to wish Murtha dead?

So does John Murtha deserve to die a heinous death? I think Raven might have been speaking in hyperbole…

False. She has confirmed that she does indeed want Murtha to die:

So yea… I hope he’s a victim of the next terror attack that he can thank himself for bringing to our soils.

Also:

He will deserve what he gets.

Also:

He should be blown up by a suicide bomber.

Back to you, Duncan…

Does she actually want harm to come to him, or is she exaggerating both her great dislike for him and his policies?

Raven has clearly answered that question. She actually wants Murtha to die.

I don’t expect you to understand that though.

I understand very clearly that Raven wants Murtha to die. What is odd is that you do not.

You simply are trying to play a “gotcha you evil hatemongering neocon ha ha” game and then argue ad nauseum.

I have pointed out Raven’s lack of any moral reasoning skills.

nananananah

sticking my tongue out at you!!

Whacha gonna do? Go cry to Mommy? Make her get me?

pfft.

Go drink some more Mountain Dew, drool some more, and buy another bottle of Jergens.
You’re a loathe to human beings. Don’t you have better things to do than this? Baiting bloggers is a fun game and you got lots of comments here. It will be the last time though. You are, what we call, a troll. To be ignored for your ignorance and arrogance.

YES…I wish harm upon Murtha- I want him to take the hits so YOU and ME and everyone doesn’t have too. It’s better to HATE one than all. Hate isn’t always a bad thing. It’s human. And unlike you, I am a human being who wishes to stay alive vs. have my life legislated away by some old coot whose time has long gone.

Get a grip Meat Head. The world is full of peaceful easy goers like you, and every time an attack occurs people like you are in charge. It takes the tough people to end the wars and destroy the enemies so that YOUR sorry ass can live. You’re an ungrateful, selfish, moronic person who makes my skin crawl. You repulse me and we best not ever meet face to face. You’d be wiping up more than just your own drool.

“False. I ask a question repeatedly when it is obvious that the person replying has not answered it, or have chosen to give an evasive or irrelevant answer. That’s what Raven is doing here”

Double false. You ask the question again and again when the answer is not one you like, which you then label as evasive or irrelevant, whether it is or not.

“Cite examples, please”

In all of my dealings with you, strawmen are your speciality. Over at one of my posts I tired at answering and debunking your repeated attempts to set up strawmen. Here is the post where you attempted to set up an ENTIRE army of strawmen, a plethora if you will:

http://andrightlyso.com/2007/05/04/air-force-personell-might-not-get-paid-thanks-to-reid-pelosi-and-the-dhimmicrats/

“Is “WTF?” supposed to be an actual counterargument, or is it something your kind says when you don’t actually have a rational counterargument?

If Murtha actually made such a suggestion, is that reason enough to wish him dead?”

There have been many who have argued that Murtha’s “redeployment” of troops to Okinawa statement was, and remains to be, an ridiculous strategy. There would be no such thing as a quick respo