Here’s the latest from Jay “rope + tree + ACLU lawyer = pinata” Stephenson:
I join in with Rick Moran’s message to the civil liberty scaremongers like Glenn Greenwald and the ACLU that have been crying about our loss of freedoms, NSA paranoia, and comparing Bush to Hitler.
Well, Jay, your already shredded credibility is still safely demolished. Greenwald has never compared Bush to Hitler. But there’s nothing like a convenient lie to start out a blog post with, is there? And it isn’t like you haven’t been caught lying your ass off in the past, is it?
Greenwald, in fact, wrote a column earlier this year exposing the sorry truth: it is the Bushite neoconservatives who use the Hitler meme:
To pro-Bush war supporters, the world is forever stuck in the 1930s. Every leader we don’t like is Adolf Hitler, a crazed and irrational lunatic who wants to dominate the world. Every country opposed to our interests is Nazi Germany.
From this it follows that every warmonger is the glorious reincarnation of the brave and resolute Winston Churchill. And one who opposes or even questions any proposed war becomes the lowly and cowardly appeaser, Neville Chamberlain. For any and every conflict that arises, the U.S. is in the identical position of France and England in 1937 – faced with an aggressive and militaristic Nazi Germany, will we shrink from our grand fighting duties in appeasement and fear, or will we stand tall and strong and wage glorious war?
With that cartoonish framework in place, war is always the best option. It is the only option for those who are noble, strong, and fearless. Conversely, the sole reason for opposing a war is that one is a weak-minded and weak-willed appeaser who harbors dangerous fantasies of negotiating with madmen. Diplomacy and containment are simply elevated, PC terms for “appeasement.” War is the only option that works.
“Cartoonish” is the best adjective I’ve seen yet that describes you, Jay. Serious, real world, rational and complex arguments have no place in your brightly-colored, childlike world. Neither, obviously, do the facts.
Give up, Jay. You’re a sad little liar with a sad little website posting the sad little lies of yourself and your fellow sad little liars — and everyone knows now that lying is just about the only talent you and your buddies have.
UPDATE 12/02/06 8:50 AM EST: Comments on this post have been re-opened.
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November 30th, 2006 at 3:49 pm
Ogre
Hey Jay, I think meatbrain has a crush on you.
November 30th, 2006 at 10:34 pm
meatbrain
Hey Ogre…. where does Glenn Greenwald ”[compare] Bush to Hitler”? Provide a quote and a link.
Run away, little coward. Every time you are challenged to produce facts, you flee.
December 1st, 2006 at 10:37 am
Ogre
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy crap!
You’re so incredibly self-centered and clueless, I’m almost peeing my pants laughing at you! I’m not positive, but if you go back and check the logs, I don’t think in my post that I mentioned Greenwalk, Bush, OR Hitler. Maybe I did, and I don’t remember it, though. When I stop laughing, I’ll go back and read the comment I left and see if it’s there in the fine print or something.
December 1st, 2006 at 11:01 am
meatbrain
Then would you agree, Ogre, that Jay Stephenson lied when he made the claim that Glenn Greenwald ”[compared] Bush to Hitler”?
December 1st, 2006 at 11:28 am
Ogre
When did you stop beating your wife?
December 1st, 2006 at 11:34 am
meatbrain
In other words: Jay’s statement is unfounded in fact, and thus a lie.
Thanks, moron. You make my point for me despite yourself.
December 1st, 2006 at 11:35 am
Ogre
In other words: you didn’t stop beating your wife, and in fact, are a violent wife-beater.
Thank you for making my point.
December 1st, 2006 at 11:49 am
meatbrain
You’re still making my point, idiot. You’re afraid of any fact-based discussion. You have always been afraid of fact-based discussion.
If Jay Stephenson was correct when he claimed that Glenn Greenwald ”[compared] Bush to Hitler”, it would be a simple matter to cite an example in which Greenwald did just that.
Since Jay was lying, neither you nor he can do that. Since Jay was lying, you’re trying (and failing) to change the topic of the discussion here. Since you are as much an intellectual coward as Jay, you can’t even acknowledge the challenge I have put forward.
Stay gutless, Ogre. You and I both know that you really don’t have any choice.
December 1st, 2006 at 11:59 am
Ogre
You are still making MY point. You’re afraid of any fact-based discussion. You have always been afraid of fact-based discussion.
If you were correct when you claimed that you did not have a crush on Jay, it would be a simple matter to cite an example in which you did not.
Since you were lying, you cannot do that. Since you were lying, you’re trying (and failing) to change the topic of discussion here. Since you are as much an intellectual coward as you friends, you can’t even acknowledge the challenge I have put forward.
Stay clueless, meathead. You and I know that you really don’t have any choice.
December 1st, 2006 at 12:18 pm
meatbrain
You made no challenge, lying idiot.
If Jay Stephenson was correct when he claimed that Glenn Greenwald ”[compared] Bush to Hitler”, it would be a simple matter to cite an example in which Greenwald did just that.
Since Jay was lying, neither you nor he can do that. Since Jay was lying, you’re trying (and failing) to change the topic of the discussion here. Since you are as much an intellectual coward as Jay, you can’t even acknowledge the challenge I have put forward.
Stay gutless, Ogre. You and I both know that you really don’t have any choice.
December 1st, 2006 at 2:59 pm
Ogre
You made no challenge.
If you were correct when you claimed that you did not have a crush on Jay, it would be a simple matter to cite an example in which you did not.
Since you were lying, you cannot do that. Since you were lying, you’re trying (and failing) to change the topic of discussion here. Since you are as much an intellectual coward as you friends, you can’t even acknowledge the challenge I have put forward.
Stay clueless, meathead. You and I know that you really don’t have any choice.
December 1st, 2006 at 3:10 pm
meatbrain
“You made no challenge.”
False. Here’s the challenge, idiot:
You’re too stupid to be an effective liar, idiot.
When you decide to stop posting obvious lies, idiot, email me, and I’ll reopen comments here. Until then, enjoy your mental deficiencies. They are obviously all that you have.