Look at the evidence, and decide for yourself.
Jay “rope + tree + ACLU lawyer = pinata” Stephenson claims that veteran White House correspondent Helen Thomas "is entirely stupid" for questioning White House mouthpiece Tony Snow about a recent veto of a UN Security Council resolution.
Crooks and Liars has the transcript:
QUESTION: But wasn’t there a resolution?A straightforward enough exchange… except that Tony Snow was lying. There was indeed a resolution, and the US did veto it:
SNOW: No.
QUESTION: At the U.N.?
SNOW: No. You know what you’ve done — I see — what happened was that there was conversation about, quote, a cease-fire that was picked up on some of the microphone when some colorful language made its way into the airwaves yesterday.(LAUGHTER)
And the president was continuing a conversation he had had earlier with Prime Minister Tony Blair about staging. Would we like a cease-fire? You bet. Absolutely. We would love to see a cease-fire. But the way you stage it is that you make sure that the people who started this fight, Hezbollah, take their responsibility.
QUESTION: There was no veto at the U.N.?
SNOW: No. There hasn’t been a resolution at the V.N. — the U.N., whatever it is. There haven’t been any…(LAUGHTER)
There hasn’t been.(LAUGHTER) I’ve been at (inaudible) in Germany too long. There has been no resolution at the U.N.
The United States used its veto power on Thursday to block a Security Council resolution that would accuse Israel of a “disproportionate use of force.”The text of the vetoed resolution called upon Israel “to halt its military operations and its disproportionate use of force that endanger the Palestinian civilian population and to withdraw its forces to their original positions outside the Gaza Strip”. This doesn’t seem to me to be a particularly even-handed resolution — nothing is said about Hezbollah’s attacks on northern Israeli cities.
John R. Bolton, the American ambassador, exercised the veto after failing in an effort to deny the resolution the nine votes needed for adoption.
The point, however, is that Thomas was right — there was indeed a veto. Tony Snow was lying — there was indeed a resolution. But, as always, we can count on Jay to be dead ignorant about the facts. When he was informed by another commenter about the resolution, what was his response?
Is that what she was talking about?That, my friends, is pure, unadulterated, unashamed, invincible ignorance. So who, really, qualifies as “entirely stupid”?
We report, you decide…
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July 19th, 2006 at 12:20 am
Maj. M.T. Rational XXXIV
Thomas is still smart as a whip, and I’d trust her over Snow any day of the week. I’m really shocked that Snow even let her ask a question. The administration usually goes out of its way to ignore her, most likely because she doesn’t let anyone get away with any shit.
July 19th, 2006 at 1:24 am
Beaming Visionary
Here’s what Snow said in asserting that Bush will veto HR 810 (the bill which would increase embryonic stem-cell funding) no matter what:
“The president is not going to get on the slippery slope of taking something living and making it dead for the purposes of scientific research.”
“Taking something living and making it dead”? Since when is a five-day-old blastocyst destined for a garbage can in any way “alive”? Can people adopt them? What do they like to eat? I think Tony Snow goes by a pseudonym like “loboinok” or “Glib Fortuna” when he hits the blogs and message boards.
July 19th, 2006 at 2:02 am
Maj. M.T. Rational XXXIV
I heard an interesting question a while back. It’s not the best argument in this debate, but it’s intriguing nonetheless. If you were in a burning building, and you could save one five-year-old child or five blastocysts in a petri dish, which would you choose?
July 19th, 2006 at 10:50 pm
Wild Bill
Hack my pubes out of your mouth Thinking Meat.
July 20th, 2006 at 12:35 am
Beaming Visionary
Now that’s just the sort of lucid, on-topic rebuttal that keeps debates between Jay et al. and meatbrain from being one-sided. Study meatbrain’s post and Wild Bill’s comment for a few minutes and you’ll find that they’re virtually indistinguishable. Vive la intellectual underclass!
July 20th, 2006 at 1:19 am
Bill from Dover
Helen Thomas has bigger balls than the entire WH press corps & Wild Bill put together.