It must be nice to have such lofty aspirations in life. I’ve decided to help you out. Be sure to type “Kit Jarrell is a fuckhead” into Google every day for the next few weeks to see how long this search string takes to register (and don’t forget the quotes). The Googlebots are an active and diligent bunch of crawlers, so it shouldn’t take long.

From Robert:

“As to the attention paid to your little group, it is largely a result of the fact that you lot produce some of the most militantly foolish material on the internet.”

Witness this post on StopTheACLU.com and Ed Brayton’s exposure of yet another example of how that mongrel “media outlet” combines laziness with purposeful dishonesty to again make a mockery of itself and its futile mission.

Bottom line is, actions such as these simply embolden the enemy’s will to fight, and break our potential allies will to help us. Your inability to see this is your problem.

As to the rest of your supposed “argument”:

1. No Iraqi killed any of our citizens on 9/11. Period. End of Story. 9/11 was orchestrated primarily Saudi nationals. None of the hijackers was Iraqi. Saddam Hussein, being a secular dictator, would have been anathema to bin Laden’s view of an Arab world run by the likes of the Taliban. But don’t let that get in the way of your little fantasies.

2. So the activities of the few should give you leave to commit atrocities against the population as a whole? So basically, you’re giving justification to the motives and methods of the terrorists.

3. Again, you give credence to the motives and methods of the terrorists who actually perpetrated the attacks of 9/11. Your argument here is that there is no such thing as an innocent civilian. Funny that’s also the justification terrorists of all stripes use to justify the murder of innocent civilians. Not that I expect that you’ve ever actually given so much as the tiniest bit of thought to your proclamations.

As to the attention paid to your little group, it is largely a result of the fact that you lot produce some of the most militantly foolish material on the internet. That and your renowned predilection for accusing everyone who calls bullshit on you of “whining,” and then trying to pretend that you don’t care when it’s painfully obvious that you do care.

Oh, and it’s really amusing to see you try to play the “reasoning with the enemy” card that is so much in vogue with the other wingnuts. This is basically code, in wingnutia, where emotion replaces reason despite their protest to the contrary, for “I can’t think of any more insults to fling or logical fallacies to throw up, so now I’m going to pretend that I’m taking the high road.” What you call “reasoning” is laughable, consisting primarily of assertions without any real backing and the tendency of trying to throw in completely unrelated “issues” that you seem to hope will throw people off of the completely content-free nature of your argument.

1. They killed our women and children on 9/11. (And don’t even start with “Iraq wasn’t responsible for that…terrorists over there are all interconnected. Radical Islam period.)

Did killing women and children on 9/11 break our will to fight, or mobilize us to fight? I seem to recall it did the latter. Perhaps you can explain why you believe that killing Iraqi women and children will break the terrorists’ will to fight, rather than enrage them further and act as a handy recruiting tool for al Qaeda.

Iraq was not a radical Islamic state before 9/11. It was, in fact, decidedly secular. Screeching “Radical Islam period”, alas, proves nothing but your own ignorance of history.

George W. Bush himself admitted over three years ago that there was no connection between the regime of Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks:

Q One question for you both. Do you believe that there is a link between Saddam Hussein, a direct link, and the men who attacked on September the 11th?

THE PRESIDENT: I can’t make that claim.

If you have evidence that the President has not seen, by all means present it now.

2. They kill our citizens in the most disgusting, brutal ways possible and broadcast it to the world.

Are we talking about the terrorists doing this killing, or unarmed civilians? What responsibility did the unarmed civilians killed in Haditha bear for the acts of murder you are referring to here?

Are you even aware that there are unarmed civilians in Iraq, or do you favor that the entire population be exterminated, as you do the population of Iran?

And have you noticed how suddenly all mention of context has vanished from your argument, since I actually provided some context that demonstrates just how much you want to see civilians killed?

3. They use children as scouts and pawns and even soldiers because they know if anything happens to one of those little combatants, they can scream “they killed my CHILD!” and people like you will demonize the troops in a heartbeat.

Which of the children in Haditha were being used as scouts and pawns and even soldiers, Kit? Which of the civilians were combatants? If they were combatants, why has the Marine Corps paid restitution to the families of those combatants?

How about you come on our radio show and we’ll go real-time debate, live?

I don’t think that would be very fair, since you apparently cannot answer simple questions when they are presented in text. I think your inability to hold the thread of a conversation would only be even more glaringly obvious in an audio debate.

Here, for instance, you have the ability to scroll up and review the questions that you still haven’t answered (see comments 16 and 18). Do you have answers for those questions?

“Those Marines deal with children who throw bombs, shoot at them, play scout for the terrorists, and all kinds of things against our troops”

And don’t even claim they were innocent, because as we’ve already established, you weren’t there and can’t attest to what happened.

Hmmm. Meatbrain hasen’t a clue, but Kit has it down cold.
Guess this is taken out of context also.

“You and your 5 readers sit around and whine about everything we say, everything we do.”

Make that six.

“Then again, now that I think about it, ‘bad’ publicity is still publicity. Links from your blog still go into our total and help our rankings, and your whining is still another hit for my name on Google”

There ya go Meatbrain… I’m a better person than you cuz I get more hits.

I agree with what the US did to end World War II. I agree with the fact that they dropped two atomic bomcs that obliterated Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It broke the enemy’s will to fight, and it ended the worst war the world had ever seen.

Bottom line is, I agree with doing what is necessary to break the enemy’s will to fight. They’re doing it to us every day.

1. They killed our women and children on 9/11. (And don’t even start with “Iraq wasn’t responsible for that…terrorists over there are all interconnected. Radical Islam period.)

2. They kill our citizens in the most disgusting, brutal ways possible and broadcast it to the world.

3. They use children as scouts and pawns and even soldiers because they know if anything happens to one of those little combatants, they can scream “they killed my CHILD!” and people like you will demonize the troops in a heartbeat.

You claimed in an earlier post that you have no personal ill will toward me. I find that hard to believe, since the only people you write about with any frequency are in the Wide Awakes group. You and your 5 readers sit around and whine about everything we say, everything we do.

Then again, now that I think about it, ‘bad’ publicity is still publicity. Links from your blog still go into our total and help our rankings, and your whining is still another hit for my name on Google. The beauty of it all is that I’m not a public figure. Keep writing!

Normally I forget you exist, to be honest. Every so often I have this wild hair that makes me wonder if you can be reasoned with. Then I come over, go a few rounds, and realize that not only can you not be reasoned with, you can’t even be debated because you have no grasp of reality.

But I’m a glutton for punishment, so tell you what. How about you come on our radio show and we’ll go real-time debate, live?

But then you go on: “It’s war….people die…..what is so hard to understand about that?” Hmm, still trying to justify what happened, despite your protestations to the contrary. Yes, in war people die, sometimes civilian casualities are unavoidable. Nobody here has denied that. That does not excuse our troops OPENING FIRE on CIVILIANS who are posing NO THREAT TO THEM. Especially not when we are the aggressor in this war (Iraq didn’t and couldn’t have, invaded us). Is that so difficult for you to understand? Or are you being deliberately idiotic?

You continue: “How would you like it if someone decided to arrest you for doing your job?” The Marines job is not to commit mass murder. When those troops opened fire on innocent civilians they ceased being our troops and became common criminals. People like you who try to justify their actions with this handwaving and sad little attempts at macho posturing deserve nothing but contempt.

You’ll take what you want, ignore the context or the circumstances, and then extrapolate some insane judgment.

Oh… context like this, you mean?

The U.S. Marines paid at least $38,000 to the families of Iraqi civilians killed in a November clash in Haditha… It is standard procedure for the military to make payments when it is at fault. The payments, which included $2,500 for each person killed, were authorized by the battalion commander, Lt. Col. Chessani, and his superiors.

So… in this context, are we to assume that the Marines actually paid compensation to the families of women and children who were throwing bombs at the Marines, or shooting at them, or playing scout for the terrorists? Please, please, Kit, help me understand this in context.

Saying that I “favor” murdering civilians is asinine.

Well, gee… for context, I harken back to your support of domestic terrorism (when directed against Muslims, of course), and your desire to see every human being in Iran killed. In that context, it is quite reasonable to say that you favor the killing of civilians, because you’ve done it before.

My point is simply this. You don’t know what happened over there. You don’t. The problem is, you don’t care. You’ll do the same thing with that situation that you’ll do with anything I say in this comment box. You’ll take what you want, ignore the context or the circumstances, and then extrapolate some insane judgment.

Those Marines deal with children who throw bombs, shoot at them, play scout for the terrorists, and all kinds of things against our troops. Can you honestly say that there is no situation where killing children is called for in a time of war? If you say there is no situation on earth that justifies killing children, then you have no concept of the nature of war.

Saying that I “favor” murdering civilians is asinine. What I said, and what I believe, is that it is unfortunate that it happens, but it is something that happens during war. Period. It is not possible to win a war with no collateral damage. And don’t even claim they were innocent, because as we’ve already established, you weren’t there and can’t attest to what happened.

Yeah, especially the 4-year-old girl shot in the head. Good thing they got her before she attacked the Atlantic coast and brought the whole eastern seaboard down. I feel much safer now.

I’m not offering anything up as justification…

I’ll take that to mean that you are unable to justify the killing of unarmed civilians.

It is also obvious that you cannot explain how the killings in Haditha are in any way part of “the strategy and reasons behind the WOT”.

In fact, any rational discussion of your views at all appears to be beyond your capabilities. Why is no one surprised by this, I wonder?

How come you twats seem so ready to stand against our troops and never with them?

Like General Hagee, I expect our troops to obey the law. I frankly do not understand how you manage to twist that into “stand[ing] against our troops”.

How come you twats seem so ready to stand against our troops and never with them?

You don’t understand the strategy and reasons behind the WOT…

Please, by all means, enlighten us, Kender. Explain how the grand strategy of killing unarmed civilians ensures that we will be triumphant over the terrorists.

...you seem to have some dreamy lala idea of what war should be…

General Michael W. Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps, must also share this “dreamy lala idea of what war should be”. He actually expects Marines to obey the law:

We have all been educated in the Law of Armed Conflict. We continue to reinforce that training, even when deployed to combat zones. We do not employ force just for the sake of employing force. We use lethal force only when justified, proportional and, most importantly, lawful. We follow the laws and regulations, Geneva Convention and Rules of Engagement. This is the American way of war. We must regulate force and violence, we only damage property that must be damaged, and we protect the non-combatants we find on the battlefield.

The nerve of this guy! He’s obviously not fit to spitshine boots!

It’s war….people die….

Do you offer this as a justification for the killing of unarmed civilians? Are you, in fact, saying that any act of aggression by US forces is justified, no matter who the target is or whether the targeted individuals are combatants?

How would you like it if someone decided to arrest you for doing your job?

Do you believe that killing unarmed civilians — and then trying to cover up that action — is part of the job of the US armed forces?

It’s war….people die…..what is so hard to understand about that?

How would you like it if someone decided to arrest you for doing your job?
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