That’s funny. I assume you mean that being a Christian, you believe in Biblical justice, which bears little relationship to the justice system in the America you purport to love. Justice as it applies here in the 21st-century Western world isn’t even in the Christian lexicon.

‘If we kill Moussaoui he’s in Hell for an extra few years, which is exactly what I want.”

Huh. If people supposedly suffer in the Christian fantasyland called “Hell” for all eternity, how does the concept of “a few extra years” even apply? What’s infinity plus fifty, smart guy?

“The Passion of the Christ” is arguably the goriest big-name film ever produced, and U.S. Christians turned out to view it in insane numbers. Every time some ersatz Jesus follower starts crowing about how Christianty is unlike Islam in that Christians don’t blow things up, remind them of 1) the Crusades, 2) the Inquisition(s), 3) abortion-doctor murders, and 4) the number of Christians who applauded the murder of Matthew Shepard. Of course, people like Fred Phelps of godhatesfags.com fame are only doing as the Bible commands when calling for homosexuals to be put to death. Just imagine what would happen if men like Pat Robertson achieved untrammeled political power – the U.S. would be virtually indistinguishable from Arab nations in terms of its policy toward unbelievers.

That mouth-breathers like Kender, Jay and Justin are incapable of going more than three or four posts or comments without talking about offing someone stands as further testimony to the apocalyptic world view of these deluded, lowbrow liars.

“Betters,” indeed.

Killing someone who is not an imminent threat is murder, period. Read the description of the facility that Mousaoui is going to housed and tell me that a quick death is preferable to him rotting for the remainder of his natural life.

The fact of the matter is that Mousaoui wants to become a martyr, which would elevate him from his status as a bungling, deluded, screw-up. Martyrdom is a powerful religious symbol (just look the one you claim to follow), and should be denied Mousaoui. Let the screwup rot in the shadows, forgotten like he deserves to be. Make him a martyr and he may actually pose a threat. Leave him to rot and he remains a nothing.

And, using your attempt at a reply, if your faith tells you that a terminally ill person will go to Heaven, would that justify you killing them? What if they asked you to kill them? By your logic (I think he deserves to go to Hell, he’ll go there when he dies, so we should kill him), such a killing would be justified.

So do you apply your own arguments consistently or not?

Your use of your supposed Christianity to justify your positions makes the fact that those positions contavene Christ’s own teachings, much less the better part of the content of the Bible very much a valid subject for debate. If you don’t want the so-called (by you) “Christian Talking Point,” stop trying to pretend that Christianity somehow justifies your positions. Till then, be prepared to have it thrown back in your face whenever you attempt to use the “I’m a Christian” get out of jail free card.

If you kill Moussaoui, you’re just giving him what he wants (at least half the time). YOU claim he’s in Hell for an extra few years, but what if, instead he gets his 72 virgins and goes to Heaven? Or what if, since he wasn’t actually the “20th hijacker,” and therefore didn’t actually kill anybody, he goes to one of the less unpleasant afterlife places (assuming you believe in them)? A truly just penalty, given his penchant for wanting attention and desire for martyrdom would be for him to be locked away and ignored for the rest of his natural life.

Yes, you are allowed to have an opinion. And I am glad you expressed it, Justin. Now we know that you have no interest in an orderly society governed by laws. You want a society in which can kill with impunity, where the laws simply do not apply to you. You want a society where can act on your own bloody impulses, and suffer no consequences for it.

You truly expect that simply wailing how ‘righteous’ you are will make any crime you commit perfectly acceptable. Tell me this, Justin: What substantive moral difference is there between the terrorist who proclaims he is pursuing a ‘righteous’ jihad against the West, and an angry little boy who screeches that his ‘righteous’ anger gives him permission to commit murder? Do either of them hold a moral high ground?

Meatbrain, guess what? I’M ALLOWED TO HAVE AN OPINION without it applying to everyone in the world. I can advocate his murder without advocating all righteous murders, and your damn argument won’t stop me from doing so!

In between the times he seems to be trying to save his own skin, Moussaoui actually seems to want to die the death of a martyr, which is being rightfully denied him. Let him rot, denied the reward he so desperately wants.

And as for “Real Teen,” get a damned grip, boy. Not preventing a crime is not a crime in and of itself and murder, by its very definition is an immoral act. Killing is only justifiable under certain, limited circumstances (imminent threat, etc).

Justice doesn’t mean do to them what they did to you (we don’t and should not automatically kill those who kill). It deals with what is fair. In the case of deluded nutbars who want to become martyrs, isn’t the most just solution to treat them as delusional (in a mental institution, for example) for the rest of their natural lives (denying them the martyrdom they so dearly want). Let him sit, separated from the attention and everything else he wants until he dies of natural causes (since suicides can’t be considered martyrs) forgotten by the world he wanted to make a mark on.

And for those who try to conflate being a (self-professed) Christian with being stubbornly in support of the death penalty, ask yourself how many people Christ (death penalty victim) executed or had executed on his behalf.

You didn’t answer my question: Does everyone get to commit murders, so long as they claim that the murder is ‘righteous’?

Are you referring to our President (+administration) and the 2,400+ deaths that were the direct result of his poor decisions and planning?

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Does this rule apply to anybody, Justin, or just you?

While he’s in prison, I hope he gets some psychiatric help, because it’s pretty obvious that he has some mental problems. Seems like a schizophrenic to me. Anyway, I really don’t support executing the mentally ill, unlike a certain large Southern state.